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Old 07-16-17, 08:40 AM
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Yep, all Sports and F-sports come standard with air suspension. Part of the reason the replacement shocks are so expensive is that they have 17-position variable electronic damping in addition to the air bag/spring, which is typically the part that deteriorates first (the rubber diaphragm is exposed to everything coming off the tire inside the wheelwell). The deterioration is not caused by salt from winter driving, as my Sport came directly from California near the end of summer and it has never touched salt (aside from Pacific ocean air in Newport Beach) - yet it has failed one and is starting to fail the other side front air spring before 65k.
Old 07-16-17, 09:56 AM
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I personally am not a fan of the F-sports; I wasn't able to tell a noticeable difference in the ride and have read the brakes have been problematic. Most of the F-sports (2013+) I've seen on Autotrader, when looking at service history have already had some brake work done (under warranty or out of pocket)...
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Old 07-17-17, 06:58 PM
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I've been keeping my eye on this 2010 LS460L:
http://www.sslexus.com/VehicleDetail...-AZ/3016204463
The price went down from high 27k last month.
What do you guys think? I really like the color combo. I don't necessarily need the room of a LWB since it's just me and my gf riding.
Looks like the car has been regularly maintained by Lexus dealers.
Old 07-17-17, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
I've been keeping my eye on this 2010 LS460L:
http://www.sslexus.com/VehicleDetail...-AZ/3016204463
The price went down from high 27k last month.
What do you guys think? I really like the color combo. I don't necessarily need the room of a LWB since it's just me and my gf riding.
Looks like the car has been regularly maintained by Lexus dealers.
Wow that thing wouldn't last 2 hours on the lot here in south florida at that price. I paid more than 10K more for my 11 a year ago with same mileage but CPO. I think that is a heck of a lot of car for that price. My favorite color combo too! **Edit** Only thing that may scare some buyers away with that car is the air suspension. I got lucky and my LWB didn't have air suspension but if I got it CPO and extended the warranty I wouldn't mind.
Old 07-17-17, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LS430FL
Wow that thing wouldn't last 2 hours on the lot here in south florida at that price. I paid more than 10K more for my 11 a year ago with same mileage but CPO. I think that is a heck of a lot of car for that price. My favorite color combo too! **Edit** Only thing that may scare some buyers away with that car is the air suspension. I got lucky and my LWB didn't have air suspension but if I got it CPO and extended the warranty I wouldn't mind.
I would would get it right away if it was L/Certified and I could get some warranty on it.
Old 07-17-17, 10:23 PM
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I am surprised to hear that a warranty would cover the hydraulic air system, F-Sport or otherwise??
Old 07-18-17, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
I've been keeping my eye on this 2010 LS460L:
http://www.sslexus.com/VehicleDetail...-AZ/3016204463
The price went down from high 27k last month.
What do you guys think? I really like the color combo. I don't necessarily need the room of a LWB since it's just me and my gf riding.
Looks like the car has been regularly maintained by Lexus dealers.
You can do a little better, i paid $24k for 2010 LWB + 19" 5-spoke and dynamic cruise with 73k miles in April
Old 07-18-17, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by damon
I am surprised to hear that a warranty would cover the hydraulic air system, F-Sport or otherwise??
Well, some aftermarket extended warranties don't cover them, neither do powertrain-only warranties. But the Lexus Platinum extended warranty does, as does the CPO/L-Certified warranty.
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Can you still buy Lexus Platinum warranty on a 2010 LS? The one I posted dropped in price again so I'm really tempted to go check it out and maybe work a deal on it.
Old 07-20-17, 09:00 AM
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48,000 miles is a lot of miles for a $37,000 LS. The going price for LS's with 25-35000 miles is in the the vicinity of $40,000 with CPO and AWD even. I would look around more on the big car sites.
Here's a CPO '14 LS460 AWD for $44,000 with just 25,577 miles. I would pay an extra $7000 for 23,000 less miles and getting AWD too. Actually, I think even that one I just found is overpriced and should be no more than $40K.
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...ting=178552943
And I just did a quick look in NJ for this. There are probably more out there.
I paid $50K for my CPO AWD LS ('14) w/just over 8000 miles, basically in new condition as far as I can see.

On that car you are thinking of, in a couple of years it'll have over 70K miles on it and you might still be paying for it maybe. 'not a good feeling to be making payments on a car with 70K+ miles IMHO.

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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
I've been keeping my eye on this 2010 LS460L:
http://www.sslexus.com/VehicleDetail...-AZ/3016204463
The price went down from high 27k last month.
What do you guys think? I really like the color combo. I don't necessarily need the room of a LWB since it's just me and my gf riding.
Looks like the car has been regularly maintained by Lexus dealers.
$23k for L base with radar cruise and air suspension and tan interior, that is a good deal. Wonder why it sits?. L base with tan interior is very rare......
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I hope you hurry and buy as I am very tempted...but I'm in Greece right now so it's all yours ��
Old 07-20-17, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by satiger
$23k for L base with radar cruise and air suspension and tan interior, that is a good deal. Wonder why it sits?. L base with tan interior is very rare......
How can you tell it has radar cruise and air suspension? How would I know if an air strut is bad? Do they leak like regular shocks?
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I hope you hurry and buy as I am very tempted...but I'm in Greece right now so it's all yours ��
Oh man! If I get this one, I'll sell you my 2013 GS350

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Old 07-20-17, 01:17 PM
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It is an awesome deal. Very good find.
I wonder why they didn't make it L Certified with such low mileage.
Thank You.
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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
How can you tell it has radar cruise and air suspension? How would I know if an air strut is bad? Do they leak like regular shocks?
You can identify Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (DRCC) by the Lexus emblem being solid up front, in the grill, and the following icon on the steering wheel:



A dead giveaway of air suspension is the presence of the "Height High" button. Depending on year of LS 460, it looks like below (07-12 on the left, 13+ on the right):



I have not experienced a bad air strut first-hand, but others that have commonly report a characteristic clunking sound when going over bumps.

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