What is the difference in the semi aniline leather?
06-09-17, 07:12 AM
#1
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What is the difference in the semi aniline leather?
Everyone suggests getting the semi aniline leather interior option but I'm not seeing what the difference is with or without it. Anyone have pictures they can show the difference?
06-09-17, 08:12 AM
#2
I had regular leather on my previous LS and have semi-aniline on the new car. Really can't tell any difference. I really don't know what the definition of semi-aniline leather is. Regular leather is surface dyed and had a polyurethane clearcoat on the top. Aniline leather his vat dyed all the way through. Semi-aniline leather? No idea.
06-09-17, 08:33 AM
#3
I would get the best leather possible as the 460's is not too hot in general. Or at least compared to the leather they used in the 430. Now that stuff is truly top notch.
Full-Aniline and Semi-Aniline Leather
Many people believe that the terms “premium select leather”, “full-aniline”, “fully-aniline” (often simply called aniline) and “semi-aniline” (sometimes referred as aniline plus leather) describe grades of leather. In reality, they are both high-quality full grain leather; the terms actually describe the type of dyeing and finishing that’s used, and how it affects the final look and feel of the leather. However, because only the most exquisite full-grain leathers are suitable for full-aniline treatment, aniline is indeed the highest level of leather upholstery.
06-09-17, 12:50 PM
#5
OK, I spent a while on Google and found what I think is the best description of Aniline and Semi-Aniline leather. For cars, it appears aniline would be too delicate a finish, hence the surface treatments.
"Semi-aniline leathers or aniline plus pigments (AP) are dyed in vats with aniline dyes that penetrate throughout the hide so that the color goes all the way through the hide. However, the processing of semi-aniline leathers is taken a few steps further. After the leather is aniline dyed, a pigment color is applied to the top of the hide to guarantee a consistent color on the top surface of the hide. Next, additional finishes may be applied to the leather by hand or by machine to impart an antique look or some other special effect. Finally, a clear protective coating is applied to make the leather stain repellant and sun resistant. The sheen of this protective coating can be varied to give a matte finish or a high gloss finish.
Likewise, pure aniline leathers (A) are dyed in vats with aniline dyes that penetrate throughout the hide so that the color permeates and goes all the way through the hide. However, neither a surface pigment color nor a protective coating is applied. A hand antique finish may be applied. Because pure aniline leather does not have a pigment color applied to its top surface, there will be variations in color throughout the hide's surface. Also, the lack of a protective coating makes this leather more susceptible to staining and fading."
"Semi-aniline leathers or aniline plus pigments (AP) are dyed in vats with aniline dyes that penetrate throughout the hide so that the color goes all the way through the hide. However, the processing of semi-aniline leathers is taken a few steps further. After the leather is aniline dyed, a pigment color is applied to the top of the hide to guarantee a consistent color on the top surface of the hide. Next, additional finishes may be applied to the leather by hand or by machine to impart an antique look or some other special effect. Finally, a clear protective coating is applied to make the leather stain repellant and sun resistant. The sheen of this protective coating can be varied to give a matte finish or a high gloss finish.
Likewise, pure aniline leathers (A) are dyed in vats with aniline dyes that penetrate throughout the hide so that the color permeates and goes all the way through the hide. However, neither a surface pigment color nor a protective coating is applied. A hand antique finish may be applied. Because pure aniline leather does not have a pigment color applied to its top surface, there will be variations in color throughout the hide's surface. Also, the lack of a protective coating makes this leather more susceptible to staining and fading."
06-09-17, 01:03 PM
#6
In a perfect world I would not even have leather in a LS. The leather does not hold up long term and the only thing that is bad quality in my opinion. I would pick the imitation leather. That should still look better after twice as long.
Luxury cars need leather. But even with cloth material. You can keep them looking new twice as long.
Luxury cars need leather. But even with cloth material. You can keep them looking new twice as long.
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06-09-17, 01:23 PM
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The major difference I noted after owning a 430 with semi-aniline and now a 460 without is that the semi-aniline wears much cleaner over time.
The colour remains more consistent and cracks look less like damage and more like... wear.
Semi-aniline wears with more character, if you will.
The semi-aniline also stands up to aggressive cleaning better.
Twice a year I would take a magic eraser to the ecru leather in my 430 with no problem.This would essentially sandpaper a super thin a layer off the surface, leaving the leather looking like new.
The leather in the 460 seems weak compared.
The colour remains more consistent and cracks look less like damage and more like... wear.
Semi-aniline wears with more character, if you will.
The semi-aniline also stands up to aggressive cleaning better.
Twice a year I would take a magic eraser to the ecru leather in my 430 with no problem.This would essentially sandpaper a super thin a layer off the surface, leaving the leather looking like new.
The leather in the 460 seems weak compared.
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06-09-17, 01:46 PM
#8
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you took magic eraser on leather? I dont think thats a very good idea, this at certain point would end up damaging the leather. Semi leather seems more comfotable; not sure if its really is/ my LS has the regular stuff I guess and the rx has the semi; the seats feel much softer with the semi.
The major difference I noted after owning a 430 with semi-aniline and now a 460 without is that the semi-aniline wears much cleaner over time.
The colour remains more consistent and cracks look less like damage and more like... wear.
Semi-aniline wears with more character, if you will.
The semi-aniline also stands up to aggressive cleaning better.
Twice a year I would take a magic eraser to the ecru leather in my 430 with no problem.This would essentially sandpaper a super thin a layer off the surface, leaving the leather looking like new.
The leather in the 460 seems weak compared.
The colour remains more consistent and cracks look less like damage and more like... wear.
Semi-aniline wears with more character, if you will.
The semi-aniline also stands up to aggressive cleaning better.
Twice a year I would take a magic eraser to the ecru leather in my 430 with no problem.This would essentially sandpaper a super thin a layer off the surface, leaving the leather looking like new.
The leather in the 460 seems weak compared.
06-09-17, 02:01 PM
#9
Intermediate
I did! Part of my spring and fall cleanup each year.
And for the whole 5 years I owned the car too.
The leather looked perfect in that 430 right up until a drunk driver wrote her off.
Even the armrest leather was in excellent condition on that car after 15 years.
Loved that car. Just not the old display interface...
On the '94 LS400 I had before that, I ended up replacing the leather on both front seats when they started cracking through.
That one was also about 17 years old at that point.
The rear seat leather was excellent except at the top where sun exposure is heaviest. Up there it got really hard but still looked good.
And for the whole 5 years I owned the car too.
The leather looked perfect in that 430 right up until a drunk driver wrote her off.
Even the armrest leather was in excellent condition on that car after 15 years.
Loved that car. Just not the old display interface...
On the '94 LS400 I had before that, I ended up replacing the leather on both front seats when they started cracking through.
That one was also about 17 years old at that point.
The rear seat leather was excellent except at the top where sun exposure is heaviest. Up there it got really hard but still looked good.
06-09-17, 03:33 PM
#10
I am not particularly aggressive with my leather. Steam works really well for dirty areas. Good cleaning and conditioning once a month or so. My 430 also looked almost new when I sold it. Pretty much every 2 - 4 year old 460 I looked at showed more wear. My A8's leather is really nice too. Too bad Lexus changed this. I wonder if the 500 has better quality.
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06-10-17, 08:51 AM
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06-10-17, 01:44 PM
#14
I don't remember if I read this or someone explained it, but when you get the semi-aniline leather, it covers the doors and armrests as well as the center console and seating areas, headrests and all areas that would normally have vinyl that are not seating areas.
My my understanding is it is also as good as the leather in a Rolls.
Cubby
My my understanding is it is also as good as the leather in a Rolls.
Cubby
