Test Drove a 2017 LS460 Today
03-07-17, 12:25 PM
#31
Pole Position
Most, maybe all, LS460s sold in Ontario (Canada?) are likely to be AWDs. So, the brochure you are looking at may be region or country-specific. I am sure there are plenty of RWD 2017s in the southern US.
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phohunned (03-07-17)
03-07-17, 12:35 PM
#32
Racer
That's a lot better than what was being offered at Lexus of Omaha (the "Lexus Plus" dealer), but quite a bit short of what FatherTo1 reported (he said his local dealer offered a new LS at $18K off sticker). Weird how non-standardized the pricing is for these! There must be lots of markup!
03-07-17, 12:38 PM
#33
the front end should be unique on the LS yet almost all lexus modles have this hideous spindle grill, even the suv's. Now there even making suv's look like sedans, unbelievable.
03-07-17, 01:38 PM
#34
I almost asked my wife for the Phantom 4 for Christmas, but decided against it (for now). One of the things I wanted to do with it was precisely what you are thinking about, have the "follow me" function video me driving my car. I'm picturing a nice treeless country road.
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MrDOS (03-07-17)
03-07-17, 02:20 PM
#35
Rick,
I feel the same pain as you. I live in Lincoln and have bought 5 new Lexus vehicles from Lexus of Lincoln. In the past the GM usually gave me an extra $500-$1000 off (the 5-8% off of the MSRP) just because he knows I love to haggle. Since they moved to Lexus Plus they gave me extra $0 off from their posted price. Their reason is that the price is set by Lexus based on the market availability. I got LESS THEN $1000 off of the MSRP on the new NX200t FSport (...because that model combination is rare/hot for the market) where others get $3000-$5000 off easy.
The Next dealer is Omaha (same owner) or Willis in Iowa (3-4 hours away), Chicago dealers are 8 hrs away, same for Denver area (7-8 hrs away). I actually love to try the the dark side (German) but not yet.
I actually SAW your 600h ONCE because I believe there is ONLY 1 Silver 600h around here. Beautiful car.
I feel the same pain as you. I live in Lincoln and have bought 5 new Lexus vehicles from Lexus of Lincoln. In the past the GM usually gave me an extra $500-$1000 off (the 5-8% off of the MSRP) just because he knows I love to haggle. Since they moved to Lexus Plus they gave me extra $0 off from their posted price. Their reason is that the price is set by Lexus based on the market availability. I got LESS THEN $1000 off of the MSRP on the new NX200t FSport (...because that model combination is rare/hot for the market) where others get $3000-$5000 off easy.
The Next dealer is Omaha (same owner) or Willis in Iowa (3-4 hours away), Chicago dealers are 8 hrs away, same for Denver area (7-8 hrs away). I actually love to try the the dark side (German) but not yet.
I actually SAW your 600h ONCE because I believe there is ONLY 1 Silver 600h around here. Beautiful car.
03-07-17, 02:50 PM
#36
Pole Position
7 of the 8 2017's at Lexus of Tulsa are RWD. Only 1 was AWD
Dennis
Dennis
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phohunned (03-07-17)
03-07-17, 03:21 PM
#37
Driver School Candidate
Good to know, it must be a regional difference (there is only awd models avaiable on the Canadian website).....starting price for a brand new 2017 LS460 awd is $84,600 CAD (after the $10,000 cash purchase incentive and before taxes and fees) that's around $62,000, seems like a big price difference, and you can still haggle over here lol
03-07-17, 04:53 PM
#38
Instructor
Thread Starter
Rick,
I feel the same pain as you. I live in Lincoln and have bought 5 new Lexus vehicles from Lexus of Lincoln. In the past the GM usually gave me an extra $500-$1000 off (the 5-8% off of the MSRP) just because he knows I love to haggle. Since they moved to Lexus Plus they gave me extra $0 off from their posted price. Their reason is that the price is set by Lexus based on the market availability. I got LESS THEN $1000 off of the MSRP on the new NX200t FSport (...because that model combination is rare/hot for the market) where others get $3000-$5000 off easy.
The Next dealer is Omaha (same owner) or Willis in Iowa (3-4 hours away), Chicago dealers are 8 hrs away, same for Denver area (7-8 hrs away). I actually love to try the the dark side (German) but not yet.
I actually SAW your 600h ONCE because I believe there is ONLY 1 Silver 600h around here. Beautiful car.
I feel the same pain as you. I live in Lincoln and have bought 5 new Lexus vehicles from Lexus of Lincoln. In the past the GM usually gave me an extra $500-$1000 off (the 5-8% off of the MSRP) just because he knows I love to haggle. Since they moved to Lexus Plus they gave me extra $0 off from their posted price. Their reason is that the price is set by Lexus based on the market availability. I got LESS THEN $1000 off of the MSRP on the new NX200t FSport (...because that model combination is rare/hot for the market) where others get $3000-$5000 off easy.
The Next dealer is Omaha (same owner) or Willis in Iowa (3-4 hours away), Chicago dealers are 8 hrs away, same for Denver area (7-8 hrs away). I actually love to try the the dark side (German) but not yet.
I actually SAW your 600h ONCE because I believe there is ONLY 1 Silver 600h around here. Beautiful car.
It is pretty painful having only the two Lexus dealers (both owned by the same person) within easy driving distance, but for the huge price disparities we've been hearing about, I think I'd be fine with a bit of a road trip to get my next one. One way flights are cheap to Denver, Chicago, St. Louis, etc., and all of those places would be fun to cruise home from in a new Lexus (roughly 7-8 hours for any of them). Des Moines is only 2 hours away... they might be more willing to deal...
I'm hoping the "Lexus Plus" experiment fails and goes away before I get serious about upgrading!
03-07-17, 05:01 PM
#39
Instructor
Thread Starter
On a somewhat related note, I just read that the new LS500 will be offered in Hybrid form (LS500H). There's a post about this on the new 5th Gen LS Forum, but many of us probably don't frequent that forum (yet).
Appears to be in the same vein as the LS600hL... Combining hybrid batteries/electric motors with the new Twin Turbo V6 to achieve better power, smoothness, etc. Here's a link to an article I just read:
http://www.motor1.com/news/138141/20...-geneva-debut/
Not sure what the price premium over the standard LS500 will be, but this will undoubtedly be the new "Flagship" for the Lexus LS line. I'd love to test drive one!
Appears to be in the same vein as the LS600hL... Combining hybrid batteries/electric motors with the new Twin Turbo V6 to achieve better power, smoothness, etc. Here's a link to an article I just read:
http://www.motor1.com/news/138141/20...-geneva-debut/
Not sure what the price premium over the standard LS500 will be, but this will undoubtedly be the new "Flagship" for the Lexus LS line. I'd love to test drive one!
03-07-17, 06:18 PM
#40
I would have to agree...but have you seen mercedes lately? They have totally changed the front and back of their sedans to look the same. When I see one coming down or going up the road I cant tell if it is a new C-class, E-class, or S-class until I see it from the side. THe front and rear lights are all the same I couldn't believe it when I saw my neighbors car. Car manufacturers should not combine features from their highest top of the line brand with their lower end options. I too think that the flagship model should be unique.
03-08-17, 09:35 AM
#41
Lexus Test Driver
I would have to agree...but have you seen mercedes lately? They have totally changed the front and back of their sedans to look the same. When I see one coming down or going up the road I cant tell if it is a new C-class, E-class, or S-class until I see it from the side. THe front and rear lights are all the same I couldn't believe it when I saw my neighbors car. Car manufacturers should not combine features from their highest top of the line brand with their lower end options. I too think that the flagship model should be unique.
03-08-17, 03:35 PM
#42
Intermediate
I would have to agree...but have you seen mercedes lately? They have totally changed the front and back of their sedans to look the same. When I see one coming down or going up the road I cant tell if it is a new C-class, E-class, or S-class until I see it from the side. THe front and rear lights are all the same I couldn't believe it when I saw my neighbors car. Car manufacturers should not combine features from their highest top of the line brand with their lower end options. I too think that the flagship model should be unique.
Seems sad that a $40k C class and a $130k S class are completely indistinguishable until you can see the vehicle's length.
03-08-17, 04:00 PM
#43
My grandfathers business is in York, Nebraska and every time I travel back there (via Omaha, Lincoln and sometimes Grand Island) I am shocked at how few Lexus I see, let alone foreign cars. Everyone I've talked to in York says that you buy a Cadillac when you have "made it." I understand the American mindset many in the Midwest have, but there are plenty of other options beyond Cadillac. Your 600 is beautiful and isn't just a rare sight in Nebraska... I live in LA, and it's uncommon to see a 600 here. In fact, I can't remember the last time I saw one on the road here.
03-08-17, 04:19 PM
#44
On a somewhat related note, I just read that the new LS500 will be offered in Hybrid form (LS500H). There's a post about this on the new 5th Gen LS Forum, but many of us probably don't frequent that forum (yet).
Appears to be in the same vein as the LS600hL... Combining hybrid batteries/electric motors with the new Twin Turbo V6 to achieve better power, smoothness, etc. Here's a link to an article I just read:
http://www.motor1.com/news/138141/20...-geneva-debut/
Not sure what the price premium over the standard LS500 will be, but this will undoubtedly be the new "Flagship" for the Lexus LS line. I'd love to test drive one!
Appears to be in the same vein as the LS600hL... Combining hybrid batteries/electric motors with the new Twin Turbo V6 to achieve better power, smoothness, etc. Here's a link to an article I just read:
http://www.motor1.com/news/138141/20...-geneva-debut/
Not sure what the price premium over the standard LS500 will be, but this will undoubtedly be the new "Flagship" for the Lexus LS line. I'd love to test drive one!
03-08-17, 04:38 PM
#45
Lexus Fanatic
