Unintended acceleration
03-15-18, 06:04 PM
#31
Lexus Fanatic
With your foot on the brake and on the gas full throttle the car will not move, it cannot overdrive the brakes.
You thought your foot was on the brake and it was on the gas.
You thought your foot was on the brake and it was on the gas.
03-15-18, 08:47 PM
#32
Racer
After three unintended acceleration events, corporate had a "super tech" check the car at the dealer. And what did he find? Nothing wrong with the vehicle. All of this within a six month span.
After a seven month period of no events, I was parking the car in my garage and as I was coming to full stop, the car suddenly accelerated. Fortunately I stopped by putting car in neutral ! I am positive that my foot was not on both the brake and accelerator.
No one at Lexus has admitted to me that others have the same complaint, but there is something wrong with this all electronic car. I hope there is no serious accident caused by this phantom!
More owners with the problem should come forward and not think it is an isolated incident. I at first thought so, but continued events told me otherwise. Your not crazy or otherwise as the "dealer" will have you think!
All of you out there who believe it is operator error with have a change of mind when it happens to you.
After a seven month period of no events, I was parking the car in my garage and as I was coming to full stop, the car suddenly accelerated. Fortunately I stopped by putting car in neutral ! I am positive that my foot was not on both the brake and accelerator.
No one at Lexus has admitted to me that others have the same complaint, but there is something wrong with this all electronic car. I hope there is no serious accident caused by this phantom!
More owners with the problem should come forward and not think it is an isolated incident. I at first thought so, but continued events told me otherwise. Your not crazy or otherwise as the "dealer" will have you think!
All of you out there who believe it is operator error with have a change of mind when it happens to you.
Last edited by FatherTo1; 03-15-18 at 08:52 PM.
03-15-18, 08:49 PM
#33
Lexus Fanatic
No, you can shift to neutral anytime, no brake by wire.
This is has NEVER been shown to be a problem with any vehicle they have ever investigated for unintended acceleration.
Try it in your car, put your left foot on the brake and floor the accelerator, you won’t go anywhere.
This is has NEVER been shown to be a problem with any vehicle they have ever investigated for unintended acceleration.
Try it in your car, put your left foot on the brake and floor the accelerator, you won’t go anywhere.
03-15-18, 10:10 PM
#35
Lexus Champion
Originally Posted by userflw
After three unintended acceleration events, corporate had a "super tech" check the car at the dealer. And what did he find? Nothing wrong with the vehicle. All of this within a six month span.
After a seven month period of no events, I was parking the car in my garage and as I was coming to full stop, the car suddenly accelerated. Fortunately I stopped by putting car in neutral ! I am positive that my foot was not on both the brake and accelerator.
No one at Lexus has admitted to me that others have the same complaint, but there is something wrong with this all electronic car. I hope there is no serious accident caused by this phantom!
More owners with the problem should come forward and not think it is an isolated incident. I at first thought so, but continued events told me otherwise. Your not crazy or otherwise as the "dealer" will have you think!
All of you out there who believe it is operator error with have a change of mind when it happens to you.
After a seven month period of no events, I was parking the car in my garage and as I was coming to full stop, the car suddenly accelerated. Fortunately I stopped by putting car in neutral ! I am positive that my foot was not on both the brake and accelerator.
No one at Lexus has admitted to me that others have the same complaint, but there is something wrong with this all electronic car. I hope there is no serious accident caused by this phantom!
More owners with the problem should come forward and not think it is an isolated incident. I at first thought so, but continued events told me otherwise. Your not crazy or otherwise as the "dealer" will have you think!
All of you out there who believe it is operator error with have a change of mind when it happens to you.
03-16-18, 01:11 AM
#36
Driver School Candidate
No, you can shift to neutral anytime, no brake by wire.
This is has NEVER been shown to be a problem with any vehicle they have ever investigated for unintended acceleration.
Try it in your car, put your left foot on the brake and floor the accelerator, you won’t go anywhere.
This is has NEVER been shown to be a problem with any vehicle they have ever investigated for unintended acceleration.
Try it in your car, put your left foot on the brake and floor the accelerator, you won’t go anywhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electr...ntrolled_brake
03-16-18, 01:42 PM
#38
I hear what you are saying, and no offense taken. I would like to say that the newer LS460's have a feature called "Brake Over Ride System" which allows the brakes to over ride any acceleration due to pressing the gas pedal at the same time. However my 2008 does not have this feature. Also after driving the car for 8 years, I'm 99.99% sure that I was not pressing on the gas pedal at the same time while braking. Corporate Lexus has requested that I drop it off to my local Lexus dealership, so they can do some tests. We will see what the out come is. Thanks to all for your input.
"Brake Over Ride System"???
WTF - How come I didn't check that on the options list when I bought my new LX!?
Here is Al Unser on the subject.....
Looks like Audi and all the others had the "Brake Over Ride System" as standard equipment..... :-)
So what happened to the guy whose wife ran off the road and he blames LEXUS for "complete brake failure?"
Oh - here it is ---"CLOSED"
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...failure-2.html
I guess it got a bit TOO FUNNY...
Last edited by xfea; 03-16-18 at 02:05 PM.
03-16-18, 03:51 PM
#39
Are we feeding a troll here? I can't believe this is a thing still. Unintended acceleration, defined as "I didnt tell the car to do that" is BS. its operator error in either action or lack of precaution.
Unintended acceleration defined as "I didn't realize I told the car to do that" or "I didn't realize that my kids toy/floormat/big gulp was in the way of the pedal"" or "I just screwed up and need to blame something other than myself" does exist.
Unintended acceleration defined as "I didn't realize I told the car to do that" or "I didn't realize that my kids toy/floormat/big gulp was in the way of the pedal"" or "I just screwed up and need to blame something other than myself" does exist.
03-16-18, 05:01 PM
#40
Lexus Fanatic
Are we feeding a troll here? I can't believe this is a thing still. Unintended acceleration, defined as "I didnt tell the car to do that" is BS. its operator error in either action or lack of precaution.
Unintended acceleration defined as "I didn't realize I told the car to do that" or "I didn't realize that my kids toy/floormat/big gulp was in the way of the pedal"" or "I just screwed up and need to blame something other than myself" does exist.
Unintended acceleration defined as "I didn't realize I told the car to do that" or "I didn't realize that my kids toy/floormat/big gulp was in the way of the pedal"" or "I just screwed up and need to blame something other than myself" does exist.
03-17-18, 07:22 PM
#43
13 SWB F-Sport RWD and I can tell you for a FACT that it's true. Happens to me almost every time I lightly tap the brake to disengage cruise control. It's to the point now where I just disengage from the control stalk because I don't trust the brakes to disengage it. It only happens when I use cruise control. I actually added it to a post I created a few months back when I first got the car. Didn't get much response, probably because it wasn't the main reason I was posting.
So FWIW yes it is a thing and just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it's "operator error/pressing brake and accelerator" etc. All these different people who are total strangers and have been driving for YEARS saying the same thing isn't just happenstance. The LS is still a machine and by that, a machine is prone to quirks and gremlins just like an other brand. So if you have a way to help please do, if not, then save the 2 cents because it's a legit issue. Thanks every one for sticking to your guns and speaking on it.
So FWIW yes it is a thing and just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it's "operator error/pressing brake and accelerator" etc. All these different people who are total strangers and have been driving for YEARS saying the same thing isn't just happenstance. The LS is still a machine and by that, a machine is prone to quirks and gremlins just like an other brand. So if you have a way to help please do, if not, then save the 2 cents because it's a legit issue. Thanks every one for sticking to your guns and speaking on it.
03-17-18, 07:56 PM
#44
Eddie, you are really talking about a different situation from unintended acceleration. In your case applying the brake is not disengaging the throttle, it is not increasing the throttle to further accelerate the car. I would think your problem would be covered under warranty.