greg3852

I don't really understand the comparison here. You are talking about 11-12 cpo 460's or at the latest an 06 430? That is a gigantic difference in cars. Do you want a new car with a 3 year warranty or an old car usually with high miles? To me this is a no brainier. While a great car in its day, the 430 is old and dated. It will also be a third of the price. All depends on your budget really.

Devh

The actual maintenance cost of newer model vehicles is actually a lot less then older vehicles. The fluids and mechanics of the car in general have made many of the components maintenance free especially when timing chains became the norm.

You also have to consider the age of the vehicle. As the the car gets older even if it is sitting the rubber tends to rot.
Nobody know the actual longevity of the LS460 because there is not a lot of high millage examples out there but it is possible that it could set a new record for vehicle longevity.
I think owners will end up trading to a new electric car well before any major work is needed.

1WILLY1

iTrader: (9)

It all comes down to what you can afford.

If your like me and money is an issue then go with the 430 for now, should give you a few years of trouble free comfort, you can continue to save and keep an eye out for the right deal on a 460 , which is what im doing now.

If money is not an issue then go with the newer model, jump in head first and don't look back

Thomasin

Just joined the forum and was attracted by this thread. I own both, a 02 LS430 and 10 LS460.

I did not trade my 430 because I love the car so much. The cabin design of 460 looks better. However, when it comes to tranquility, I bet there are no cars on Earth including the later 460, can beat LS430. Honestly, 460 has a much more "sporty" personality compared with 430. Even with a gentle pressure on the pedal leading to 2000-3000rpm during acceleration, it is obvious to me that 460 roars like a beast . On the other hand, once you are the highway, the noise level is not much different from 430 (Only acceleration matters). Anyone thinks the same?

Nevertheless LS460 does not involve the use of timing belt and probably can save you some money during the 90K service?

Lexuslsguy

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Although my 05 430 UL was a great car and was the epitome of reliability it and the 460 are not in the same class as the A8 and / or S Class when it comes to interior quality / refinement and serenity. I have not tested the new LS yet but hopefully Lexus has improved the interior.

R Z

I've said this before, I liked my 430. I LOVE my 460.

BMW7_LS430

I just got a 2011 LS460L and still keeping 04 ls430 custom luxury

• 460 sounds weird at low speeds but 430 always sounds great like v8 at all speeds.
• 460 armrests/glovebox/dash are of very poor quality and my 430 is a customer luxury with leather armrests/golvebox (Some 460 do have leather armrests but with everything else you may want in it, that may be a unicorn).
• 460 looks modern and 430 looks dated more so after getting 460. 460 look much much better. I know, it is still perceived as a grandpa car but modern.
• 460 is smoother and quieter at highway speeds and runs effortlessly. great power. 430 still is fine but can not zip through like 460 does. 290 vs 380 hp.
• 460 has smaller trunk with 18 cu ft. ls430 (non-UL) has 20.2 cu ft trunk.
• 460 has less visibility of traffic around you than 430. This is a problem with most modern cars but you can't have both.
• 460 will cost more than 430 just due to the price. I think both can run many many miles. TB/WP really averages out over period of time.
• 460 has great features like mentioned in previous posts. 430 is ok with features. 430 was full of features when new but not anymore.
• only 460 offers LWB version, 430 doesn't. As you can see from my username I went from LWB 7 series to 430 to LWB 460. Now I have LWB with Lexus reliability. Best of both worlds.
• 460 has proven to be relatively less reliable than 430 but I do not think there is anything to worry about. 2011+ will make it closely reliable to 430.
• I feel GPS is useless in both cars although 460 is relatively better. GPS without traffic is not of much use to me. I always use phone. I wish I could replicate the phone on screen.
• 460 has pollen removal button, 430 doesn't. Nice feature and relevant to my needs.
• 460 offers heated steering wheel 430 doesn't

fwhomeboy

What is a pollen removal button?

fwhomeboy

ok, I looked it up. I never knew about that.

Shad034

This thread died in 2015, why are we even talking about comparing an LS430 to a 460. That was relevant then, not now.

SW17LS

Oliver Enterprises

Why are we comparing? Because we WANT to. As long as both vehicles are available to trade owners, it is relevant.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. I have much respect for the LS 430. It doesn't look as slick. But it seems as if it is not trying to look slick, but elegant. I saw one just a couple days ago. Black, big OEM chrome (or silver painted and very clean) wheels. And the car just look GOOD. As far as I've read, the 430 engine is the most bullet proof Lexus engine to date. So the LS 430 gets my respect.

Lexuslsguy

It's not just the poor leather quality with the standard leather. Even the semi aniline is not as nice. It's a combination of things including how well the car handles and performs, massaging front seats, the media interface and features, among many other things including the overall design and layout. I'm not trying to rag on the car. The 460 is a great vehicle but they are clearly playing catchup. I kind of doubt the LS500 is flying out of the dealerships as well. The reviews are not very impressive. I've yet to see one on the road.

SW17LS

Honestly, and please don't take this the wrong way because you seem to be a good guy...but you constantly praising your A8 in here vs the LS460 off topic is getting old. I'm glad you like it, but this is not an Audi A8 forum, this is a Lexus LS460 forum, discussing the A8 when its germane to the topic is one thing, but in this instance when the discussion is "LS430 or LS460" your introduction of your A8 into the discussion is totally off topic, not the first time.

I drove the A8, I like the LS460 better which is why I bought two and why I post in the Lexus LS460 forum. Yes the interior materials are higher end in the Audi, but that wasn't enough to me to get past all the other things I like about the LS460 better. As for them clearly playing catchup, way more LS460s are sold than A8s in the US, even in 2017 when the LS only sold 4k units. If I liked the A8 better and wanted to hear about how awesome people thought it was all the time I'd join AudiWorld. You don't own an LS460 nor have you ever owned one...I don't post about my LS460 all the time on the A8 forum at AudiWorld...

Lexuslsguy

I'm expressing my opinion SW. That's what forums are for. You don't have to agree. I'm also not trying to convince anyone of buying an A8 or S Class or whatever. I enjoy this forum and have been around here a long time but not necessarily under the same name. I am personally disappointed with the 460 and this is why I did not buy one. I realize most here just drink the coolaide and have a hard time with the critical comments but they should not. The A8 also had its own fair share of issues and it is a extremely expensive car for certain fixes that should not be. I think the trick is to not take it personally. Both cars offer good and bad things. I kind of wish I would of never sold my 430 to be honest. Best car I ever owned in build quality. And if go back read my post it was in regards to the LS offering more 'serenity' then other luxury models. I disagree and expressed my opinion. That's it.