LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017) Discussion topics related to the current flagship models LS460, LS460L and LS600H

LS460L or BMW 750IL?? HELP ME - I cant decide!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-22-06, 07:31 PM
  #1  
doktorek
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
doktorek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default LS460L or BMW 750IL?? HELP ME - I cant decide!

Hi

Im looking to buy a new luxury car. I looking at both BMW 750IL or LS460L. I CANNOT make up my mind which one I should go for !!!. I dont know much about either yet but I love them both.

Please, tell me why I should buy a Lexus LS460 over a BMW 7-series??? ? They both cost about the same and features are about the same. Of course I know about the parking feature in the Lexus - which is pretty neat.

I appreciate the feedback.

Mark
Old 10-22-06, 07:43 PM
  #2  
lexusls430
Lexus Test Driver
 
lexusls430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 942
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The LS is most likely quieter, and smoother. The LS has an 8 speed auto which is awesome. The LS has an advanced engine with great gas mileage. The LS has a much better interior. The LS is much easier to use and it has a much better Nav system with live traffic updates and a better radio if you choose the Mark Levinson. Imo the LS looks a lot better inside and out. It has neat backseat features like rear diffusers and infared body thermometers which read your body temp and adjust climate accordingly. Also front and rear (optional) climate controlled seats. The list can go on and on because the LS has options that the 7 doesnt have. IMO the LS beats the 7 in every aspect except handling which the LS doesnt do to bad in. If i were you i would go with the LS no questions.
Old 10-22-06, 08:20 PM
  #3  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 73,681
Received 2,096 Likes on 1,359 Posts
Default

750iL IMHO is uglier than LS460L
750iL will respond and handle VERY well, with excellent steering and overall 'feel'
Although I haven't driven it, LS460L apparently still has loosy goosy steering and while the air suspension is good, it's still not as sporty as BMW.
Ergonomics award goes HANDS DOWN to Lexus. The 750iL interior is weird.

So the 750iL is more the drivers car, and the LS460L wins in every other way.
Old 10-22-06, 08:24 PM
  #4  
Agni88
Driver
 
Agni88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lol shows how much knowledge the others have.

there is no such thing as a 750iL, there is a 750Li though.

If you ask on a lexus forum they will say LS is better, if u ask on BMW forum they will say BMW is better.

I suggest you test drive both and decide for yourself.

Bewarned though LS is a new model so it could have some Kinks.

And the BMW is going to be replaced soon in 2008 i believe. I'm sure the new 7er will be more advanced than the new LS.

Good Luck! Both are nice cars you wont be dissapointed by either!
Old 10-22-06, 08:26 PM
  #5  
doktorek
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
doktorek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I heared something about 7 series changing body style. Anybody else has any feedback on this and when is it happening? Thanks.
Old 10-22-06, 08:57 PM
  #6  
blazinlex
Driver School Candidate
 
blazinlex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: MO
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I still think the 7 series is an amazing looking car on the outside but the LS out does it just about everything else besides handling.
Old 10-22-06, 09:02 PM
  #7  
rominl
exclusive matchup

iTrader: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 81,670
Received 184 Likes on 143 Posts
Default

if you want a driver's car, definitely get the 7 series. it has so much more road feel, tighter steering, better braking (feel at least), and handling.

however, if you want a smooth quiet ride, faster in speed, and more refine in quality and finish, the ls460l is a lot better.

the 7 series is a lot stiffer on the ride, the seats aren't really that comfortable imho. but on the other hand lexus is more "disconnected" from the road
Old 10-22-06, 09:31 PM
  #8  
doktorek
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
doktorek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I think just because a BMW is coming up with a new body in 2008, I will settle for a LS, lease it for 2-3 years and probably then get the 7 series. Im still exploring all my options. Im on both forums LS and 7 series, and everybody says what 'rominl' just said. I guess Im looking for more high tech car, with comfortable ride. I just hate the price difference between 460 and 460L. $10 K difference - thats huge when BMW is only $4K difference. Oh well.
Old 10-22-06, 09:38 PM
  #9  
Gojirra99
Super Moderator
 
Gojirra99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 30,050
Received 186 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by doktorek
I just hate the price difference between 460 and 460L. $10 K difference - thats huge when BMW is only $4K difference. Oh well.
The reason is that Lexus package more options as standard in the LS460L compared with the LS460, thus the bigger price difference. You will see if you look closely at what you get extra with the LS460L in addition to getting a longer car.
Old 10-22-06, 10:53 PM
  #10  
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
 
RNM GS3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 7,057
Received 59 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

If u have the $$$$$$, just get the S550...........It offers the best overall package IMO and it looks great with the AMG kit.

Otherwise def get the LS460L.
Old 10-22-06, 11:26 PM
  #11  
rominl
exclusive matchup

iTrader: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 81,670
Received 184 Likes on 143 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by doktorek
I think just because a BMW is coming up with a new body in 2008, I will settle for a LS, lease it for 2-3 years and probably then get the 7 series. Im still exploring all my options. Im on both forums LS and 7 series, and everybody says what 'rominl' just said. I guess Im looking for more high tech car, with comfortable ride. I just hate the price difference between 460 and 460L. $10 K difference - thats huge when BMW is only $4K difference. Oh well.
i am glad my opinions wasn't too biased (i suppose?)

anyway, please don't mistake on the price, the price difference between ls460 and ls460l is not 10k. for the 10k difference, you actually get quite a bit more stuff on the ls460l other than just the extra 5 inches
Old 10-23-06, 03:46 AM
  #12  
JessePS
Moderator

 
JessePS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: QC/FRANCE
Posts: 8,349
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Agni88
Lol shows how much knowledge the others have.

there is no such thing as a 750iL, there is a 750Li though.
BMW back in the '90s badged it as the 750iL. Some reason they put it as the 750Li now. I find it more convient the old way.
Old 10-23-06, 04:36 AM
  #13  
Helmar
Lead Lap
 
Helmar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Maine
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Reliability is more important after it's gone...

After owning and enjoying two LS's (1999 and 2003), I decided to try a 2006 BMW 3xi. I don't know if my experiences will hold true for the 7 series.

I chose a 3 series for "Sportiness" even though it's smaller. I wanted AWD and a manual transmission. Although also available on the 5 series, I went with the 3.

After 7 months, I now have to bring it in for its 2nd malfunction.

First the BMW Assist (Lexus Link) failed. Now the radar cruise control is dead.

The dealer experience is ok, but I DON'T WANT TO BE AT THE DEALER!

Worse when they perform maintenance like this and install a new version of the software, you lose all of your settings, including navigation points, radio stations, preferences, etc.

With the first problem, I went in for my appointment, waited 2 hours, and then they told me that they had to order a part. I got a loaner, and didn't get my car back for a week.

With both of my Lexus's, I never had any problems and only went to the dealer for regular maintenance.

In 2008, it's back to nice, comfortable, quiet, "Everything works the way you expect", RELIABLE, Lexus LS for me. I have a 600hL on order.

Oh, and by the way, the i-Drive isn't complicated, it's just so much more intrusive into attention to the road. Push it that way, wait for it to respond, twist the **** and hold it 'til what you want is highlighted, push it down, slide it this way ....... I won't miss i-DRIVE at ALL.

HBH
Old 10-23-06, 05:36 AM
  #14  
4TehNguyen
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
4TehNguyen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 26,033
Received 51 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

very loaded LS460 (nav/ML/comfort around 69500) is still under the base price of a 750
Old 10-23-06, 06:18 AM
  #15  
marshmallo
Lexus Champion
 
marshmallo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MA
Posts: 2,184
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

In my opinion the 7 series is the LEAST appealing car in its class.
I would choose any of the following over it : S550, LS460 and
Audi A8.

Also, when the first 7's came out they were an absolute reliability
nightmare... Beware buying into the first model year of this car
in 2008 or when it comes out.

Having said that, I would also NOT buy an LS460 or an S550 on
their first model years


Quick Reply: LS460L or BMW 750IL?? HELP ME - I cant decide!



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:33 AM.