Helmar

I've owned a '99 LS400 and an '03 LS430, and love 'em both.

I have an LS600hL on order, for delivery around February 2008.

I'm thinking that with this new car, I may keep it for at least 10 years instead of the 3-4 years I've been doing. I drive around 10-12K per year, so this would only be around 120K miles.

By only keeping my LS's 3-4 years, I'm not using one of the best features of the Lexus, long term reliability.

My only concern is that there are a lot of new things about the LS600hL that may affect the long term reliability.

Any thoughts about this? Perhaps an extended warrantee would be in order?

HBH

vraa

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As long as you don't take first or second year model year, you'll be fine.
Just get ready to pay for service costs WHEN they do come up thanks to all the filters and what not probably in the car.

It'd be nice if a dealer could give us a run down of all the service required in the new LS and at what mileage it's needed.

rominl

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knowing lexus, all their cars go 200k miles strong no problem

with hybrid, you are talking about a new things and no one knows about anything about it yet on reliability. plusyou are getting first year model, no one would know at al

LexFather

I am sure a $100,000 LS 600l h can go forever b/c my 1992 entry level ES 300 manual has 240,000k miles and keeps going and going and going!

vraa

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Less things to go wrong.

rominl - What about the Prius? Those seem to be running well right? I think the hybrid technology from Lexus is pretty well sorted out (assuming the technology in the Prius is the same as the LS600lh)

rominl

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technically, yes, but i also heard that the system in the new ls600hl could be a newer system. it's rumor, but we will have to see. i guess my bottom line is that we really can't say for sure so soon, especially with the flagship, there are just tons of NEW stuff on it

Nextourer

The Prius has been around since Dec 1997. However, those first Japanese models were using D-Cell type batteries. The newer 2001-2003 models (the same one we got over here) used a NiMH battery. The 2004+ continue with a NiMH battery but it is compatible with newer batteries while the 01-03 model isn't and must be replaced with another NiMH battery should the battery fail.

If you must know, North America's highest mileage hybrid is a 2001 Prius with 410,000kms (http://www.hybridexperience.ca/).

Naturally, the LS600h L should be using more powerful electric motors and a better battery or at least the same one as the RXh. Heck, you might even get other upgrades like better regeneration and since it's AWD, it'll probably have regeneration on its rear brakes as well.