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Old Dec 21, 2023 | 04:35 PM
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I don't think that was it. I had originally replaced just the shocks and it didn't look like this. No, not since I finished replacing the innner/outer tie rods. Since replacing those, it looked like this. Made sure the tie rods were the same length as before and still this.
Well, you would have noticed if it was looking weird when it was assembled in the air right? I would raise it and remove the wheels then lower it on jack stands and watch the magic happen, you're going to see something moving way too much.
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Old Dec 21, 2023 | 04:37 PM
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I still think the struts are wrong. Compressed too much. Front also looks real low.
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Old Dec 21, 2023 | 04:39 PM
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I still think the struts are wrong. Compressed too much. Front also looks real low.
Rubber spring syndrome??
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Old Dec 21, 2023 | 04:39 PM
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I mean.. Just look at that listing...
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Old Dec 21, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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Ya, those bushings in the upper arms are getting a good stretch.
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Old Dec 21, 2023 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerf
Well, you would have noticed if it was looking weird when it was assembled in the air right? I would raise it and remove the wheels then lower it on jack stands and watch the magic happen, you're going to see something moving way too much.
well in the air they looked fine. So if it's under load doing this, then that's what makes me question something.
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Old Dec 21, 2023 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Boykie
I still think the struts are wrong. Compressed too much. Front also looks real low.
but does it make sense this happened after the tie rods were replaced?
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Old Dec 21, 2023 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Phenomenon101
well in the air they looked fine. So if it's under load doing this, then that's what makes me question something.
If the shocks and springs are shot it will lower the car somewhat which will cause negative camber but I don't know about that much. You must have removed the lower balljoint right, how did that go?

I meant the arm from the joint

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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerf
If the shocks and springs are shot it will lower the car somewhat which will cause negative camber but I don't know about that much. You must have removed the lower balljoint right, how did that go?

I meant the arm from the joint
that went pretty normal I suppose. It took a lot of work. Some hammering at times. Used a combination of gear puller and ball joint remover to help.
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerf
If the shocks and springs are shot it will lower the car somewhat which will cause negative camber but I don't know about that much. You must have removed the lower balljoint right, how did that go?

I meant the arm from the joint
Are KYB a good brand for struts? Going to replace the struts and keep the springs to see if there's a difference.
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I rest my case.
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Boykie
I still think the struts are wrong. Compressed too much. Front also looks real low.
Would KYB be a good brand strut?
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 06:00 AM
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Are you against taking a wheel off and having a look at before you order parts? both sides are the same so probably the same issue on both. I've replaced a lot of struts and never seen that issue even with broken springs.
The only time I've seen wheels in that position is when a balljoint or control arm is broken.
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerf
Are you against taking a wheel off and having a look at before you order parts? both sides are the same so probably the same issue on both. I've replaced a lot of struts and never seen that issue even with broken springs.
The only time I've seen wheels in that position is when a balljoint or control arm is broken.
I can do that. Going to try and pull it into the garage to take pictures.

Of course the same day I complete everything was the same day my floor jack **** out on me lol. So I'll see if using the scissor jack is enough.
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 06:41 AM
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Some folks like KYB. Using your VIN to find the right parts is a best bet on these cars. Even if it only gives you OEM part numbers. Then you can cross reference them to KYB. Are you keeping the OEM springs? OK, If keeping aftermarket springs, bad idea because they may not be the right size or rate. One badly matched part throws everything off. With the LS460, many aftermarket parts can be problematic. There just aren't enough LS460 out here to make it financially feasible for small manufacturers to engineer parts to exact specs. Boykie uses OEM only, guaranteed to fit and match factory ride. Considering you won't need to replace them again for the life of the car, a good suggestion for a little more money. You can also do a search here for many threads and discussions about shocks, etc. Then you can make a more informed decision. BTW, both GERF and Boykie are well versed in LS repairs.
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