LS - 3rd Gen (2001-2006) Discussion topics related to the flagship Lexus LS430

Bumpy and not-so-quiet ride?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-29-18, 04:59 PM
  #1  
ipstat
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
ipstat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Georgia
Posts: 43
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Question Bumpy and not-so-quiet ride?

Hi all,

I have a few questions regarding my 2004 Lexus LS 430 sedan.

It seems volume in the car, for example when driving on the highway, is louder than it should be. The drive also seems a little bumpy and not as smooth (especially when the asphalt or concrete is older).

I was wondering if there is a way that I can test to see if there is some issue with weatherproofing or there may be an air leak which makes the sound louder. This is the bigger issue.
Also, is there a way one can test if the springs or suspension needs to be tweaked for a smoother ride? Is it the tires?

Additionally, if there is an issue with the weatherproofing and it needs to be replaced, do I need to do that before getting the windows tinted?

Since I bought this car in July 2017 there hasn’t been any decline and experience. This is all based on the assumption and my experience that it seems this way (i.e. other people's Lexuses seem to have a smoother ride). The car may be fine.

Thanks so much.
Old 04-29-18, 05:02 PM
  #2  
Bob04
Pole Position
 
Bob04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SC
Posts: 3,429
Received 149 Likes on 110 Posts
Default

A lot of noise and ride issues with the LS430 seem to be related around tires. What do you have on your car?
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-29-18, 05:22 PM
  #3  
ipstat
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
ipstat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Georgia
Posts: 43
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

The tires are Michelin. They may be old and worn out. I can’t tell.


Old 04-29-18, 05:31 PM
  #4  
bradland
Moderator
 
bradland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: 565 St Peter NOLA
Posts: 2,275
Received 648 Likes on 530 Posts
Default

When I bought my 430 about a year ago the tires were terrible. Mixed brands and all very worn. I immediately bought new Yokohamas and it completely changed how the car felt.
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-29-18, 06:50 PM
  #5  
tallcaguy
Instructor
 
tallcaguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: CA
Posts: 1,241
Received 55 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Tire age makes a big difference. When I bought my 01, it came w/ what looked like perfectly Michelins. The ride was hard and noisy. Replaced w/ all new Michelins. Now the car is quiet and comfortable.
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-29-18, 06:56 PM
  #6  
rkw77080
Lexus Champion
 
rkw77080's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,186
Received 675 Likes on 462 Posts
Default

Some forum members have had success in lowering road noise by applying the Honda Shin-Etsu grease on the rubber weatherstrips around the doors.
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-29-18, 07:12 PM
  #7  
LS430inDE.
Racer
 
LS430inDE.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Delaware
Posts: 1,296
Received 71 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

I agree with checking out your tires as the first/easiest step in the resolution.

I'm having a hard time identifying what tire from Michelin your tires are. What line of Michelin's? I do see the "radial x" marking and thought that was their older technology?? What's the manufacture date and specific Michelin type of the tires?

Here's a picture to help, as many people don't know how to tell what week and year the tire was made. Also, check the air pressure. They should all be 32psi when cold. If you've driven the car for 20+ minutes then expect the tire pressure to rise a couple psi, so if you're measuring after driving, you might read about 34psi which would be ok.

As a side note, just because they're Michelin's doesn't mean they'll be great forever, or even that they're great in the first place! I used to drive an Acura Legend, and the Michelin's were rode like round pieces of granite/rock, but HEY, THEY WERE MICHELIN'S! lol

The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-30-18, 07:52 AM
  #8  
bloomwcjkl
Pole Position
 
bloomwcjkl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 243
Received 23 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

Those tires are shot. Cracked and tread depth looks very low.

New tires, properly balanced would be the first step. Do you live where there is snow? I have Toyo Celsius on my 2001. Very quiet and a mixed tread tire for better winter driving.

There are many tire threads to search. You can spend a lot or a bit less. 4 Toyo Celsius mounted and balanced were $573. 60k tread warranty. I also like Cooper CS3 or CS5. Very quiet and good traction.
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-30-18, 11:04 AM
  #9  
ipstat
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
ipstat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Georgia
Posts: 43
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Thank you for all the answers.

I'm having a hard time identifying what tire from Michelin your tires are. What line of Michelin's? I do see the "radial x" marking and thought that was their older technology?? What's the manufacture date and specific Michelin type of the tires?
I will try to find out that info.
Those tires are shot. Cracked and tread depth looks very low.
Thanks. I had a suspicion they looked old.
Old 04-30-18, 12:10 PM
  #10  
Bocatrip
Lead Lap
 
Bocatrip's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Fl
Posts: 3,577
Received 269 Likes on 226 Posts
Default

My first guess would be tires as the culprit as well. When you change your tires be sure you get a quality tire that is known for a quiet smooth ride. I just purchased a set of Michelin Primacy MXM4s this year and they are as quiet and smooth as can be. Yet I'm aware that with miles and age they too will be getting noisy. Get a quality tire!
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-30-18, 12:19 PM
  #11  
ipstat
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
ipstat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Georgia
Posts: 43
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

@LS430inDE. The tires are from 2010 and 2011. 2111, 2011, 4110, 4110.
The following users liked this post:
LS430inDE. (04-30-18)
Old 04-30-18, 12:20 PM
  #12  
ipstat
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
ipstat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Georgia
Posts: 43
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

It seems that I should change them. What are recommendations for good new midline tires? Not too expensive but not cheapos.
Old 04-30-18, 12:35 PM
  #13  
Johnhav430
Lexus Fanatic
 
Johnhav430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: PA
Posts: 8,491
Received 372 Likes on 346 Posts
Default

Tires definitely make a difference. I bought my snow tires before I got my car in Oct. 2016, and so by March 2017, basically, all I knew was my car on snow tires. I was almost certain I had a problem with the rear diff, howling, when in fact the howling was from the tires. In other words, it almost defies logic how much noise the tires can create.

A quick search online at the tire rack shows the Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum as being the "best selling" for our cars @ $106.

No surprise, top rated was the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ @ $193. The other top rated is the Bridgestone RE980AS @ $167.

I've used 3 sets of Kumhos on my Maxima, and imho they are just fine. At $106 each for the LX Platinums, not much risk in trying them out. I bet they last about 45k....
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-30-18, 01:15 PM
  #14  
tallcaguy
Instructor
 
tallcaguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: CA
Posts: 1,241
Received 55 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Per my local tire store, Pilot Sport a nice combo of highway comfortable and stiffer sidewall for better handling.
Anyone w/ personal experience? If you buy M's new and don't like the version, can switch 1x to another version no cost.
On my 18's, am going to try the Pilot Sport. Too stiff or noisy? Back to Primacies.
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)
Old 04-30-18, 01:42 PM
  #15  
bradland
Moderator
 
bradland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: 565 St Peter NOLA
Posts: 2,275
Received 648 Likes on 530 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ipstat
It seems that I should change them. What are recommendations for good new midline tires? Not too expensive but not cheapos.
Tire manufacturers constantly have sales offer rebates. I would look for a good tire on sale instead of looking for a mid priced tire that's just ok...
The following users liked this post:
ipstat (04-30-18)


Quick Reply: Bumpy and not-so-quiet ride?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:31 AM.