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Old 01-28-18, 03:03 PM
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Question Advice Please on Rotors & Pads

I believe it's time for new rotors and pads. I am not sure whether to go back to OEM. Anybody have better suggestions? Also, what about these?
https://thmotorsports.com/i-1823292....SABEgLCc_D_BwE

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I have the drilled and slotted version of these they work very well in my opinion i only put 14,000 miles on them but there was a good amount of hard driving on them. They work very well and do not leave much dust on your wheels at all.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00J4PQ9K2/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1517185337&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=r1+concepts+ls430&dpPl=1&dpID=51kIMzVIseL&ref=plSrch
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Rear-Brake-Rotors-Ceramic-Pads-2001-2002-2003-2004-2005-2006-Lexus-LS430/401275933924?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

How about these. I have them. Not installed yet.
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Default Please let me know how you like them when you install

Originally Posted by bloomwcjkl
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Rear-Brake-Rotors-Ceramic-Pads-2001-2002-2003-2004-2005-2006-Lexus-LS430/401275933924?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

How about these. I have them. Not installed yet.
Please let me know when you do. I want to hear about them.
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Originally Posted by mafpolo
I believe it's time for new rotors and pads. I am not sure whether to go back to OEM. Anybody have better suggestions? Also, what about these?
https://thmotorsports.com/i-1823292....SABEgLCc_D_BwE

Any advice is very much appreciated
If you would like to enjoy OEM quality, then there is nothing better than OEM rotors and brakes. Do your rotors show signs of deterioration?

If if you would like a cool update, then this kit will brake your LS like a beast:

POWER STOP K2328. It will cost you approximately $300 shipping included as well as discount. Rockauto.

These brakes will not work effectively if your braking system has air in it, or one of the components is failing.
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Originally Posted by mafpolo
I believe it's time for new rotors and pads. I am not sure whether to go back to OEM. Anybody have better suggestions? Also, what about these?
https://thmotorsports.com/i-1823292.aspx?utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=CSE&utm_content=1823292NOFITMENT&utm_campaign=GoogleShoppingSeanNOFITMENT&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyrnXtM-J1gIVWksNCh2BygsLEAQYASABEgLCc_D_BwE

Any advice is very much appreciated
It all depends on what your opinion on "better" pads and rotors are.

Better=cheaper? Better=more exotic looking? Better=more reliable? Better=faster stopping? Better=warping slowerr? Better=less dust? Better=longer lasting?

Reminds me of my gf when she asks what the "best tire" is for her Accord V6 is. (It's almost always "better" to go with OEM)

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I was in this position when I bought my car used in 10/06. Leaving the dealer (new car dealer but GMC), the brakes pulsated. Then, the driver door actuator wasn't working, so they agreed to fix these. I insisted on OE, so the svc mgr said ok. That's when I was surprised (integrity), he said btw the Lexus dealer told us to replace the sensor and the caliper bolts, as that's part of the job.

The thing about OE rotors, I think for any brand of car/truck, is they won't rust. It's like the rotors are dipped completely, and then the pads wear away the coating where they sweep. I like that.

The only problem is it seems darn near impossible to get free shipping on OE, and rotors are heavy. So I ordered Centrics when amazon had them for $27 (they are now $45-$50, should I have gotten 4, maybe not, they will sit for years). They do have a coating and claim to withstand 400 hours of salt water....

in 15 mos. my OE fronts haven't rusted, except for a tiny stripe along the inside nearest the hub. I noticed they were pretty much loose when I took the tires off to mount the snows. OE can be identified by having gray, not black, hats.

I will be doing my rears in the spring. They have a cheap rotor with a rusted hat, so I hope the extractor bolt hole will work....

I guess just remember the shims in case they are gone from the vehicle, the caliper bolts, maybe pickup a $8 knock off sensor just in case, and a hardware kit (I got a Carlson for $5)....pads imho Akebono ProAct.
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I had drilled rotors on my car for a while and they warped rather easily, but slotted might hold up better. I purchased Centric rotors as a replacement last summer and they have been fantastic for the last 8 months. I don't remember what Metallic pads I bought, but they're holding up fine..
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Was a pretty hard core Akebono fan with good braking and better low dusting, and used them on most of the family's cars. Recently had a set of Advics on a kid's Honda Accord and loved the initial bite and zero fade. Liked them enough to put a set on the LS430. Better initial bite but more dust than the Akebonos. Rotors, when they were easy to find on Amazon, I prefer and am running Brembo (non-drilled) with UV coating on the front that have held up nicely for 3+ years. However, they are pricey for after-market. After 100+K miles, changed the rears and went with Centrix with black coated hats, no problems after ~1 year. I do live in Southern California so there are no harsh winters or road salts to contend with. But lived in the mid-west for many years and know the car repair drama of the rust-belt!

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If you wanna go crazy i had this set up on a previous ls430, and it was awsome cars braking was amazing, but its a expensive set up. Items were priced on amazon because thats were i purchased mine previously.

Brake pads
Brembo P83058N front, $56
Brembo P83059N rear, $52

Rotors
EBC USR7208 front $340
EBC USR1209 rear $245
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Just installed Centric premiums with Akebono ceramic brake pads. OEM quality feel and braking distance now. No squealing from the pads. And the brake job itself was about 20 minutes tops. including lifting the car and removing the wheels! My god - and the dealer wants $950 for a brake job!
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Originally Posted by Galco
Was a pretty hard core Akebono fan with good braking and better low dusting, and used them on most of the family's cars. Recently had a set of Advics on a kid's Honda Accord and loved the initial bite and zero fade. Liked them enough to put a set on the LS430. Better initial bite but more dust than the Akebonos. Rotors, when they were easy to find on Amazon, I prefer and am running Brembo (non-drilled) with UV coating on the front that have held up nicely for 3+ years. However, they are pricey for after-market. After 100+K miles, changed the rears and went with Centrix with black coated hats, no problems after ~1 year. I do live in Southern California so there are no harsh winters or road salts to contend with. But lived in the mid-west for many years and know the car repair drama of the rust-belt!
To me, Akebono is like Valeo, or Stabilus, they are the OEM across multiple car lines, from different continents, so very hard to go wrong with them. I've used Akebono in Japanese and American cars, and the cars came with them. Excellent pads (ProAct). For the majority of cars, it's about noise, and durability.

Would I use a ceramic when a car came with semi metallic, no, that's me, some are willing to sacrifice the bite for less dusting (meaning putting Akebonos on a BMW, which dust like no tomorrow and squeal as early as 20k, I stick with OE). But for cars that came with ceramics, the only reason to not use Akebono is you're not comfortable with paying $40-$50 when something else is $30! lol

Again I have Centrics in the basement for the rears, $27 bargain and coated...but if OE were affordable (shipping breaks the bank) then I would have gotten them...
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Power Stop has a z23 rotor and pad kit (front and rear sold as a set) with drilled and slotted rotors, carbon ceramic pads, guides, and grease for $300 on rockauto.
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If you can get Znoelli (pronounced Zanolie) rotors and pads where you are, I highly recommend getting them. I had them in my Ford Mondeo and they were the best set of brakes I'd ever used in a car. I had the DDS rotors (slotted and dimple drilled, not cross drilled) and SP500 sport pads. Brake fade was non-existent and at track-driving temperature they had serious amounts of bite. Their cold bite is very good as well. I intend to put a set in my LS430 at some point as I'm well due for rotors
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If U have no brake fade or pulsation do not turn rotors, just slap on new pads. Save yur money on new rotors


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