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Hey guys, new to the forum! I've tried hunting through the audio forums but haven't found much info on the non-ML stereo in the LS430. Did these come with subs? It does sound deep but doesn't have that punch of my old Nak LS400. If they don't have subs would it be difficult to add one in? Thanks!
If there is a sub, it would be on the rear deck. Should be fairly easy to spot. Either way, you can get a line out converter and add a Amp and sub. Did this too my ML and it sounds incredible.
Great thanks, I'll take a look. I just bought the car so it'll be getting back from the mechanic in a few days. The Pioneer(?)'s quality is surprisingly good! Just needs a bit more bass.
According to the factory repair manual, the standard (non-ML) audio system is equipped with a 2-ohm dual voice cone subwoofer. You will find the LS430 8" subwoofer at the center of the rear deck, just in front of the interior 3rd-brake light.
I did see on another post that the rear sub is 2 ohm though they listed it as a 10". It definitely feels like a smaller 8" though would the cavity support a 10 either way?
I did see on another post that the rear sub is 2 ohm though they listed it as a 10". It definitely feels like a smaller 8" though would the cavity support a 10 either way?
Yes, both are 8" OEM. I'm sure you can fit a 10" with a custom-made bracket, but I have not seen it done on this forum.
If you decide to replace the OEM subwoofer with an after-market subwoofer, please note that the standard Pioneer system uses a 2-ohm Dual Voice Coil (DVC) woofer, and the Mark Levinson system uses a Single Voice Coil 16-ohm woofer. For Mark Levinson, you can wire a 8-ohm DVC woofer in series to yield the 16-ohm impedance (measured around 14.5-ohm resistance). Shown below are the wiring scheme for the 2 systems.
Last edited by rkw77080; Oct 19, 2018 at 09:12 AM.
You probably already know this, but I will mention the wiring procedures here for completeness...
Please pay special attention to the polarity of the 2 signal pairs. The output signal going to the speaker thrusts the voice cone forward to produce sound, and if the polarity is reversed, the voice cone will actually retract instead. It will still make sound but most of the sound pressure will go toward the trunk of your car. Worse yet, imagine if you wired the DVC with one of the 2 pairs wrong, you will ended with the 2 coils/windings fighting each other (i.e. the voice cone does not move much).
If you decide to replace the OEM subwoofer with an after-market subwoofer, please note that the standard Pioneer system uses a 2-ohm Dual Voice Coil (DVC) woofer, and the Mark Levinson system uses a Single Voice Coil 16-ohm woofer. For Mark Levinson, you can wire a 8-ohm DVC woofer in series to yield the 16-ohm impedance (measured around 14.5-ohm resistance). Shown below are the wiring scheme for the 2 systems.
Any suggestions from going from the factory wire to the sub terminal? I would assume it would be best to use speaker cable for the aftermarket sub, though I'm not sure what the best method is to go from what I assume is 18 gauge wire to multi-strand speaker wire. There has to be something more elegant than a butt-splice or a scotch-lock connector?
If this were my car, I would use scotch-lock connectors in order to preserve the existing subwoofer connector. Later if you decide to go back to a OEM subwoofer, you would just remove the scotch-lock connectors and tape up the puncture wire jacket. This section of the wires will be hidden under the rear deck so no one will see them anyway.
Non-ML Sub?
