Johnhav430

What I mean is it seems that anyone can create a login, and link a VIN to it, and as far as Lexus is concerned, that person is the owner. I hope this is wrong. But I created my login 4 days before I actually picked up my car. I was rightfully going to be the owner the following Sat. Calling Lexus on the toll free number, they already knew my name and address. this is based on my Lexus Drivers login info. The call was to obtain the build sheet for my car. It was emailed to me based on the email on my profile.

I have a Lexus Drivers login. If I know your VIN, for example, can I link your car to me? Can I then edit the throttle body entry?

And I kid you not, when I linked my future car to me, the dealer which was its preferred dealer, began contacting me about my sales inquiry. I did not make any sales inquiry. Something just isn't right in the process.

Seriously, if I know your VIN, what happens if I try to link it to my login? That's the real question at the end of the day. If your car, becomes mine, and you no longer have access to it on your profile, then something is wrong.

LS430Lexus

It is not a UL or CL. Most likely, a Modern Luxury with Nav and Mark Levinson. That's ok, less things to go wrong. I would keep looking for a car with less mileage. I would also go to a 2001 to 2003 to get less mileage. Just my opinion.

LS430FL

I know for a fact that if I have the vin of any lexus car, I can go in and put the vin # in lexus drivers site get the service history to review it then just delete the car. I think it is a pretty common practice when checking out the car. However, I do think it is pretty crazy they don't require more to verify who is inputting the vin #. When you delete the vin it even gives you an option to click "I have never owned or leased this car." My guess is that the lexus dealers won't print records unless you are the owner because the records they would print would reveal full descriptions along with owners full name and address while the lexus drivers site has the date, mileage and short description which sometimes reads as encrypted language since they are not usually full sentences.

Johnhav430

I have no desire to monkey around with anyone's VIN, let alone some strange car on the web...but I am going by my own situation. I fully "registered" the car I was buying, prior to actually paying for it and taking it. This doesn't seem right. I get it, we like to think everybody is nice and honest and on the up and up, but we live in a world where being secured, is the norm, not the exception. What in the world could Lexus be thinking. Or, I could be wrong, maybe a stranger cannot input my VIN on Lexus Drivers, and become the owner of the car. But I don't see that mechanism in place, so if someone knows what it is, please share...

2KHarrier

Like LS430FL said, it's common practice to add a vehicle to review it, and then delete it once you're inquiry is complete.

To answer your first question, yes, you could go in and edit my throttle body cleaning. Any "Owner" entered records can be edited, regardless of who you list as the maintenance facility.

To answer the last comment, you never loose access to look at a VIN. You could find the rattiest 1990 LS400 on Craigslist right now and plug the VIN in to see what maintenance it has had done, and add whatever you wanted. Is anyone going to research a car like that to that extent? I doubt it...

Now, where I would agree with you would be in regards to an LFA. You shouldn't be able to access the maintenance log on a car like that and add things on your own.

Johnhav430

This doesn't make any sense. If I am not the rightful owner to your car, why should I be able to edit your throttle body service, which yes, can be edited by an owner? It's not my car!

That would be like saying you can lookup my Lenovo ThinkPad, and start snooping around as to what warranty claims I might have had, how it's configured, and basically register with Lenovo so that when the ser# is looked up by Lenovo, you show up as its owner, not me, who paid $1600 for it. All I can say is it's very bizarre.

In the above, if it were possible, you file a claim for a new SSD, get it shipped to you, and I know nothing about it. I don't even know I'm no longer the registered owner of the ThinkPad.

edit: the message that is coming through is to not take Lexus Drivers seriously (since people can add and remove non Lexus/Toyota entries at will), it's not really for anything but fun? Because you mentioned LFA, as if that wouldn't be handled by Lexus Driver? I'm totally lost to this wild wild west way of doing things, it is bizarre!

Wandl

To the OP - I wouldn't hesitate with a LS with 200k miles; but on a UL I would really have to look through service history to determine the air shocks. The Lexus website usually shows any repairs/owner concerns stated...I found a 04 UL with original air suspension with 178k and zero repair history. Never got a chance to do a PPI on it as my wife immediately shot down the idea to check on their condition but 04 LS 430 UL with 178k for $9500 in June of 2016, just to compare the prices with this 05 UL the OP is talking about.

Gronemus

I'd be willing to bet that any records that I've added to the service history of my car would not show up if someone were to enter my VIN number into the system as new owner and go and look at the service history. Just my hunch...

2KHarrier

Somebody give it a go;
This is my 2001's VIN. You should be able to see all the entries, but maybe Gronemus is correct. The owner entered items are not visible...

JTHBN30F910039105

LS430FL

I was not aware that you could edit a lexus service that would put in. I know you can manually enter service yourself but that would be owner entered. It wouldn't have the lexus label or the coding for it. I would be skeptical of any owner entered records. I have yet to see owner entered service intervals on any vin I looked at.

Gronemus

Just accessed the data for the above vehicle. Here is a summary of the records I can see:

• · 145630 MILES, DATE: 02/09/2017, REPORTED BY: Lexus North Shore
  
  · 141501 MILES, DATE: 12/22/2016, REPORTED BY:
  
  · 140089 MILES, DATE: 11/30/2016, REPORTED BY: Lexus of Brookfield
  
  · 133949 MILES, DATE: 09/22/2016, REPORTED BY: Lexus of Brookfield
  
  · 127603 MILES, DATE: 07/29/2016, REPORTED BY: Lexus of Brookfield
  
  · 122630 MILES, DATE: 06/02/2016, REPORTED BY: Lexus of Brookfield
  
  · 116316 MILES, DATE: 02/11/2016, REPORTED BY: Lexus of Brookfield
  
  · 109669 MILES, DATE: 09/25/2015, REPORTED BY: Lexus of Brookfield
  
  · 104580 MILES, DATE: 12/26/2014, REPORTED BY: Lexus of Brookfield
  
  · 75824 MILES, DATE: 03/28/2013, REPORTED BY:
  
  · 75824 MILES, DATE: 03/28/2013, REPORTED BY:
  
  · 72115 MILES, DATE: 01/07/2013, REPORTED BY: Lexus of Arlington
  
  · 5106 MILES, DATE: 10/29/2001, REPORTED BY:
  
  · 2 MILES, DATE: 05/21/2001, REPORTED BY: Germain Lexus of Dublin
  

So a total of 14 records. 10 entered by dealerships, 1 by State of Wisconsin emissions check and three unknown...

Johnhav430

OK, so this is proof that Lexus Drivers is nothing more than fun. Those user edited / added services follow the login, and are obviously nothing official, as they are missing from the above.

Then, the only oddity is that Lexus at the 800# knew my name and address based on Lexus Drivers. Potentially, a single car can have as many owners as have registered the car to the site I guess. Again, I suppose it's nothing official, so Lexus doesn't care about securing a VIN.

2KHarrier

And there it is, folks.. So, apparently those items I enter, as John stated, are pointless.

Well that sucks.

However, on a more positive note, I learned something today and we verified that you can't edit records.

Johnhav430

I guess I took it too seriously, I thought linking the VIN meant it's your car. I think 6 different people can link the car to even a bogus login. But it doesn't affect anything, there could be 6 different service histories on the same car. It's all good....the curious thing is, when I called Lexus, how did they already have my mailing address on file, if not through Lexus Drivers...

tallcaguy

I looked on LexDriver before I bought my 04. One reason I said yes because the car had Lexus dealer service every 5k. Gave details on actual service performed. No mention of owners name or information.