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anyone got a pic of LS430 on staggered 20" MRR wheels?

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Old 05-01-07, 05:14 PM
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I am interested in seeing what kind of a look the car has with the offset of the MRR HR2 wheels, I believe they are 20x9.5 in the back with 45mm offset, and 20x8.5 in the front with 35mm offset. It would be nice to see how flush they look with the fenders before I buy a set. I guess any wheels with this size and offset will give me an idea.
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Originally Posted by ancdmd
I am interested in seeing what kind of a look the car has with the offset of the MRR HR2 wheels, I believe they are 20x9.5 in the back with 45mm offset, and 20x8.5 in the front with 35mm offset. It would be nice to see how flush they look with the fenders before I buy a set. I guess any wheels with this size and offset will give me an idea.
dont know if this helps but these are the 8.5 front & 9.5 rear, 35mm & 38mm(or 40mm, i dont remember) offsets. tires are 2453520 and 2753020. the air suspension is manually adjusted to its lowest setting in the front (without datasystems) and almost to its lowest in the rear.
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other side pic. my setup needs a spacer to flush it out.
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another from the front (notice the dented front rim that costed me 400 to replace recently. was lucky that the bead didnt break though)
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Thanks for the pics and info. I have learned that a 35mm offset wheel in front will give me too much kickback in the steering wheel, and the 45mm rears will be too inset in the fenderwell, so the MRR's are out of the question. I was really set on the HR2s, damn!
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Mike, do you get any kickback in the steering wheel with those wheels, since they are 8mm more negative than stock?
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I am running 19x9 ET44 front and 19x10 ET49 rear on my 01 LS430 UL. It's a tight fit but no rubbing. Actually the front are so tight that there are only about 2-3 mm of clearance to the banana arm, the rear are about 10 mm to the fender well. BUT I don't need to roll or cut fender which was I am after.
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mikepae, nice look man, it fills the wheelwell nicelyIMO

Will look better with a lowering
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subscribing, since those were the wheels I was looking at as well.
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anybody else report steering kickback, and if so at what offset? I had it on a set of wheels with 34 offset, but not noticeable with 38 offset.

You guys with 35, any kickback?
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What does "steering kickback" mean?
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Originally Posted by pvo
What does "steering kickback" mean?

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Steering kickback is kinda like torque steer, but I believe there are caused by distinctly different things.

In either case, it's bad.
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Originally Posted by jpcdmd
anybody else report steering kickback, and if so at what offset? I had it on a set of wheels with 34 offset, but not noticeable with 38 offset.

You guys with 35, any kickback?
That kickback had nothing to do with your offset because the variance was way too small to have such negative impacts. That kick back must have been due to improper mounting, poor balance, or just the wrong spec wheels for the car.

Maybe the first wheels had spacers and the second didnt, I dont know.
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Steering kickback occurs when a wheel's offset is too negative or positive (rare). The geometry of the car's suspension determines how far in or out the center of the tire's contact patch should be in relation to the wheel hub. If this position is altered by changing the wheel offset, the steering will not feel smooth and will "kick" in your hands when going over bumps or rough roads. Many aftermarket wheel makers neglect to consider the offset as compared to stock wheels, and although a wheel may "fit" and not rub anywhere, if the offset isn't right it will handle like crap and cause increased wear on suspension components.

Imagine the forks of a bicycle with a wheel mounted between. As you go over bumps the wheel moves up and down and the handlebars stay straight, you can let go of the handlebars and the bike will want to just go straight down the road. Now imagine mounting the front wheel to the side of one of the fork legs. When you hit a bump, you'd better be holding tight to the handlebars or they will kick out of your hands. It will take a considerable amount of effort just to keep the handlebars straight on a smooth road, let alone a bumpy one. A similar thing, although less severe, happens when a wheel's offset is incorrect.

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