View Poll Results: Which one?
2003 745
29
16.02%
2004 LS 430
152
83.98%
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2003 745 or 04 Lexusls43o
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Originally Posted by Jayson
If I was buying both under factory warranty and only planned on having it during the warranty period I would go with the 745. If I planned on having the vehicle beyond the warranty years I would go with the LS430 hands down. I have heard horror stories about costly repair bills and the frequency with which you visit the dealership beyond the warranty when owning a 7-Series.
i have so many friends who have had the BMW...they r loyal customers buying one after the other...yet taking the car to fix is their favourate pastime
I don't know about the 7Series, but my Xer is perfect 
However, you can't beat Lexus. That's why we have a LS430. Who cares if the S65 has twin turbos. They are useless on a lift. Who cares if the 760Li is exclusive, it sure damn will be in the mechanics garage.
However, you can't beat Lexus. That's why we have a LS430. Who cares if the S65 has twin turbos. They are useless on a lift. Who cares if the 760Li is exclusive, it sure damn will be in the mechanics garage.
Originally Posted by caffeine
Obviously posting on a Lexus forum, the LS430 will be the hands down winner. I do however loveee the styling of the 03' 745i especially in black, I think it looks far better than the Lexus. But the Lexus is a better car in every other aspect, and who cares what your lux sedan handles like anyways, its not a sports car and the LS doesn't handle poorly.
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LS 430-----> Best Buy
LS 430-----> Best Buy 
745i----> Arguably good performance against the LS 403. However, its not reliable especially in long term usage. BMW parts (i.e. oil filter, etc.) tend to be more expensive than Toyota parts. Most bimmers require premium gas, which can get very expensive here in LA.
When I went out to buy a nice new luxury vehicle, the BMW 3-series and Lexus were on top of my list. Thank the good Lord I came to my senses and brought the Lexus!
Also, you may want to consider other factors when buying a vehicle such as comfort, price, reliability issues, maintenance costs, performance, social status, and your personal tastes. The LS 430 is not the only luxury sedan Lexus offers. Other vehicles include the GS, SC, ES, and IS which serves a diverse group of people with diverse interests. It wouldn't hurt to give the other models a try.
But its up to you. Its your money. It's your call.
745i----> Arguably good performance against the LS 403. However, its not reliable especially in long term usage. BMW parts (i.e. oil filter, etc.) tend to be more expensive than Toyota parts. Most bimmers require premium gas, which can get very expensive here in LA.
When I went out to buy a nice new luxury vehicle, the BMW 3-series and Lexus were on top of my list. Thank the good Lord I came to my senses and brought the Lexus!
Also, you may want to consider other factors when buying a vehicle such as comfort, price, reliability issues, maintenance costs, performance, social status, and your personal tastes. The LS 430 is not the only luxury sedan Lexus offers. Other vehicles include the GS, SC, ES, and IS which serves a diverse group of people with diverse interests. It wouldn't hurt to give the other models a try.
But its up to you. Its your money. It's your call.
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Originally Posted by redkingjoe
to tell u the truth...those r not stories...those r reality
i have so many friends who have had the BMW...they r loyal customers buying one after the other...yet taking the car to fix is their favourate pastime
i have so many friends who have had the BMW...they r loyal customers buying one after the other...yet taking the car to fix is their favourate pastime
That's one major reason why I didn't buy the BMW!
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It really depends what kind of person you are. The 03 LS styling is conservative but it is a safe bet.
Both cars will be reliable. The Lexus will be the most reliable. If that is all that matters to you, get the LS.
If you want to have fun, the BMW would be your choice of course.
Both cars will be reliable. The Lexus will be the most reliable. If that is all that matters to you, get the LS.
If you want to have fun, the BMW would be your choice of course.
Last edited by sdbrandon; Jan 3, 2007 at 03:24 PM.
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I love BMW's but would pick the LS. I am not a large sedan fan. But if I did have one, it would be for quiet and comfort, not performance.
If the choice was between a 5 series and an LS, well that would be a different story.
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If you love driving and don't mind the cost to keep BMW running in shape then go for the 745. I have been driving BMW for 15 years from 3 to 5 then 7 and ended with 8 series. I love them all but only when its under warranty. I'M here and guess I now drive an 06 LS430. I hope this one Lexus will last me 15 years just like all of my other beamer's life expectancy added together.
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If you love driving and don't mind the cost to keep BMW running in shape then go for the 745. I have been driving BMW for 15 years from 3 to 5 then 7 and ended with 8 series. I love them all but only when its under warranty. I'M here and guess I now drive an 06 LS430. I hope this one Lexus will last me 15 years just like all of my other beamer's life expectancy added together.
My friend just spent $10k on a 97 ES for Christs sake.
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Actually its Car & Driver & Motor Trend, LS430 is placed first & second ahead of the 7 series in these comparisons. Here are the links :
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=7359
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...dan_comparison
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http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=7359
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...dan_comparison
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I bought the 04 LS430 rather than the BMW 745Li.
I especially did not like BMWs 'iDrive'.
In general I dislike what BMW (and Mercedes-Benz) has done with the interior controls. Things like unlocking the passenger door from the driver's seat is not inherently obvious in these German cars, but it is what you'd expect on the Lexus.
I like the quality of the Lexus leather and wood interior as well (better than the BMW).
Externally, I think the BMW is slightly better looking.
The 04 LS has the 6 speed transmission, so performance-wise it seems pretty close to the BMW.
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I especially did not like BMWs 'iDrive'.
In general I dislike what BMW (and Mercedes-Benz) has done with the interior controls. Things like unlocking the passenger door from the driver's seat is not inherently obvious in these German cars, but it is what you'd expect on the Lexus.
I like the quality of the Lexus leather and wood interior as well (better than the BMW).
Externally, I think the BMW is slightly better looking.
The 04 LS has the 6 speed transmission, so performance-wise it seems pretty close to the BMW.
-MarshalWeb