Debunked: Kaaz DAT3020 fitment in a 95-97 UCF20
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Debunked: Kaaz DAT3020 fitment in a 95-97 UCF20
I've been on the path of verifying LSD fitment in my 1995 LS400. Various searches and Facebook group posts left me thinking that the Kaaz DAT3020 might fit in a 95-97.
It doesn't, so I thought I'd put it to rest for anyone else out there searching. Tons of credit to Ray from Tech at Kaaz USA for being extremely helpful.
Here is what I learned:
There are two types of Toyota/Lexus Diffs that Kaaz supports.
Type 1:
No bearing caps but cutouts (seen on each side of the diff). DAT3020 supports this type of diff
Type 2
Bearing caps, but no cutouts. (Supra GA70, MA70 and JZA70). Which would be SAT3030 2 way or SBT3030 1.5 way
Now this is what a 95-97 diff looks like, the perfect combo of fail.
No bearing caps and no cutouts
Now I'm hypothesizing that the 98-00 diff has the cutouts. Based on searching that the diff covers will swap over from a GS. (Still need solid factual verification though).
If anyone has a photo of a 98-00 diff with the cover off, that would be extremely helpful.
What this also tells me is the the Auto TT supra LSD will also not fit, because the DAT3020 is for that application. Cusco has HBD 192 A, stating fitment for a UCF10 & 20 but I don't feel like spending over 2k to be the guinea pig for that.
Next steps are
1. verifying that the 98-00 diff has the cutouts.
2. If so buying and refreshing a 98-00 rear subframe
3. re-verify with Kaaz
4. Install DAT3020 if applicable
This will take me quite a while but hopefully it helps clarify what actually works.
It doesn't, so I thought I'd put it to rest for anyone else out there searching. Tons of credit to Ray from Tech at Kaaz USA for being extremely helpful.
Here is what I learned:
There are two types of Toyota/Lexus Diffs that Kaaz supports.
Type 1:
No bearing caps but cutouts (seen on each side of the diff). DAT3020 supports this type of diff
Type 2
Bearing caps, but no cutouts. (Supra GA70, MA70 and JZA70). Which would be SAT3030 2 way or SBT3030 1.5 way
Now this is what a 95-97 diff looks like, the perfect combo of fail.
No bearing caps and no cutouts
Now I'm hypothesizing that the 98-00 diff has the cutouts. Based on searching that the diff covers will swap over from a GS. (Still need solid factual verification though).
If anyone has a photo of a 98-00 diff with the cover off, that would be extremely helpful.
What this also tells me is the the Auto TT supra LSD will also not fit, because the DAT3020 is for that application. Cusco has HBD 192 A, stating fitment for a UCF10 & 20 but I don't feel like spending over 2k to be the guinea pig for that.
Next steps are
1. verifying that the 98-00 diff has the cutouts.
2. If so buying and refreshing a 98-00 rear subframe
3. re-verify with Kaaz
4. Install DAT3020 if applicable
This will take me quite a while but hopefully it helps clarify what actually works.
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So Blu, the question now is are you going to swap to a 98-00 diff housing, throw a Kaaz in it, and then post some awesome videos of your LS tearing it up for us to gawk at? Please advise.
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I also have a spare 97 diff paperweight if anyone needs one to weld up
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nice research, thanks for sharing! never knew there were differential...differences between 95-97 and 98-00.
I should have know since the trans differs between them already.
most folks would have just put it in a supra diff with LSD eh? (not sure if it's a bolt on affair either).
now wondering how the axles and guibo bushing can cope after the upgrade.
I should have know since the trans differs between them already.
most folks would have just put it in a supra diff with LSD eh? (not sure if it's a bolt on affair either).
now wondering how the axles and guibo bushing can cope after the upgrade.
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nice research, thanks for sharing! never knew there were differential...differences between 95-97 and 98-00.
I should have know since the trans differs between them already.
most folks would have just put it in a supra diff with LSD eh? (not sure if it's a bolt on affair either).
now wondering how the axles and guibo bushing can cope after the upgrade.
I should have know since the trans differs between them already.
most folks would have just put it in a supra diff with LSD eh? (not sure if it's a bolt on affair either).
now wondering how the axles and guibo bushing can cope after the upgrade.
The 98-00 diff should be a lot stronger when abused as well with the design of the side covers and the additional mounting point.
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I wonder how this kaaz lsd works around turns. Does it push the front wheels or does it try and break loose? My 99 is currently on stands getting bc coils. Aiming for a good riding and decent handling touring sedan.
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so just to kinda confirm your going to get a 98-00 rear subframe freshen it up and run that instead of the kaaz and supra diff or use the 98-00 subframe to then use the kaaz or supra diff, appreciate the knowledge I have a 95 ls too thats why im curious
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i have a 99 Ls400 Didn’t need to swap subframes or anything. I Just dropped a gs300 3.92 diff in with ls400 pinion flange and diff cover over a year ago with all solid diff bushings and reinforced subframe. Been going strong ever since! I do still want an LSD from kaaz soon
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i have a 99 Ls400 Didn’t need to swap subframes or anything. I Just dropped a gs300 3.92 diff in with ls400 pinion flange and diff cover over a year ago with all solid diff bushings and reinforced subframe. Been going strong ever since! I do still want an LSD from kaaz soon
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