LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000) Discussion topics related to the 1990 - 2000 Lexus LS400

Key issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-17-16, 09:17 AM
  #1  
OneJay
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
OneJay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Denver
Posts: 4,263
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default Key issues

Hi all,

I have a 1991 Celsior that I've never been able to unlock with the remote, always have to put the key in the door. I've tried replacing the battery in the key, and I removed and reinserted the card in the box in the truck, and still nothing.

Also, the spare key will unlock the doors, but will not start the car. Someone suggested the "chip" in that key may need to be reset?

Any ideas?
Thanks!
Old 11-17-16, 09:37 AM
  #2  
sha4000
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
sha4000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: N.Y.
Posts: 6,853
Received 334 Likes on 288 Posts
Default

As far as I know the 91 did not have a chip but i could be wrong since you say you have a Celsior and not an LS.
Old 11-17-16, 01:52 PM
  #3  
Yamae
Moderator
 
Yamae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,741
Received 854 Likes on 646 Posts
Default

There is a chip to generate a key code even in an early LS. I worry that it doesn't generate the code correctly or the modulated signal is not transmitted. You need a spectrum analyser or an equivalent and a code decoding equipment for the analysis. But this can't be done at most dealers. Some people like me do it.
Old 11-18-16, 03:29 PM
  #4  
oldskewel
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
oldskewel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: California
Posts: 1,053
Received 179 Likes on 145 Posts
Default

My 1991 LS400, been in California since new, does not have immobilizer chips in the keys. It even has a 100% Aluminum (no plastic, no chip, no nothing other than pure Aluminum) wallet key that will work the doors, trunk, ignition, and start the car (not sure about glove box). This I know for sure, since it's just a data point for my own car. Celsior, Japanese market, etc., I do not know.

This Aluminum key does not work with the keyless entry of course. The other keys used to, then only one worked, then after that last working remote key was damaged, none work. They all still work in the doors, trunk, ignition, and to start the car.
Old 11-19-16, 05:19 PM
  #5  
OneJay
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
OneJay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Denver
Posts: 4,263
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by oldskewel
My 1991 LS400, been in California since new, does not have immobilizer chips in the keys. It even has a 100% Aluminum (no plastic, no chip, no nothing other than pure Aluminum) wallet key that will work the doors, trunk, ignition, and start the car (not sure about glove box). This I know for sure, since it's just a data point for my own car. Celsior, Japanese market, etc., I do not know.

This Aluminum key does not work with the keyless entry of course. The other keys used to, then only one worked, then after that last working remote key was damaged, none work. They all still work in the doors, trunk, ignition, and to start the car.
Does the cut on all your keys look the same? I noticed that each of mine is different. Not just a little different either. They are all very different. This includes the one that is still stapled inside the plastic baggie in the owners manual.
Old 11-19-16, 07:41 PM
  #6  
dicer
Lead Lap
 
dicer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: ca
Posts: 4,525
Received 97 Likes on 89 Posts
Default

The key that fits in the credit card case is a master key and should open everything.
Old 11-21-16, 11:50 AM
  #7  
oldskewel
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
oldskewel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: California
Posts: 1,053
Received 179 Likes on 145 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by OneJay
Does the cut on all your keys look the same? I noticed that each of mine is different. Not just a little different either. They are all very different. This includes the one that is still stapled inside the plastic baggie in the owners manual.
Yes, all the same.

I'm not 100% sure on the Aluminum wallet key - that may not fit the glove box or trunk release, but if it is different, it is only slightly (and I may be mis-remembering this for a different car).

If very different keys will work in your car, I would wonder if the lock cylinders have been modified. Will any other Lexus key work as well?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
CSH
RX - 2nd Gen (2004-2009)
4
01-06-18 09:43 AM
Piece350
RX - 1st Gen (1999-2003)
18
06-22-15 08:44 AM
RAMONQ
RX - 2nd Gen (2004-2009)
12
10-08-14 04:19 PM
Marzabella
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000)
8
09-23-10 08:00 PM
Snowman9000
SC- 1st Gen (1992-2000)
3
09-11-02 09:30 AM



Quick Reply: Key issues



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:33 PM.