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Old 10-08-16, 09:16 AM
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Default 1998 Lexus ls400 timing problems need help

I put a timing belt in my 98 lexus LS 400 after I was done when I started it. It started knock from pass. Side it runs real good jus that knock I was told that u have to load the cams anyone know how
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align all the timing marks up, see below
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Originally Posted by Catbyrd1
I put a timing belt in my 98 lexus LS 400 after I was done when I started it. It started knock from pass. Side it runs real good jus that knock I was told that u have to load the cams anyone know how
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Some things are not meant for a diy deal. Its way cheaper to have it done than to mess it up. If the dealer messes it up they get to eat it. If a person has never done mechanics and engine work and doesn't understand what is going on real good they should not be doing the job, it gets expensive if not done right. Doing a job like a timing belt is not guess work, it needs to be pretty exact, you can't do very many mechanic jobs using guess work and thinking its going to be okay, if you don't understand how it works.

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Where did u get then pictures
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I'm curious. Have you ever tried proof reading before hitting the post button in order to ensure your post makes any sense?
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Originally Posted by Catbyrd1
Where did u get then pictures
98-2000 service manual, engine mechanical 22--27 you should have one if you are going to do things like this...
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Originally Posted by Banshee365
I'm curious. Have you ever tried proof reading before hitting the post button in order to ensure your post makes any sense?
were you talking to me??
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Originally Posted by billydpowe
were you talking to me??
Of course not, I was talking to the OP. I should have quoted him. I'm finding it hard to figure out what he is saying.
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At 255k, my crank seal blew and coated the belt, tensioner and everything in oil. Since I've only worked on Hondas (Accords and Preludes) before my LS400, I gave it to the mechanic to do a big job like this. He even screwed up by not timing it correctly the first time and had to redo it. First time after he completed the job when driving away, I had no power when I eased into the gas pedal and the engine started sputtering. Within a block from leaving the shop I took it back and it took him another day or two to get it right. The second time he didn't even add the correct amount of coolant back and it almost overheated on the way home. I quickly turned around after 4 miles on the highway (luckily cold in January in AZ) and had him add more coolant.

I'm pretty sure it was his first LS400 TB/WP job but I got the TB/WP cam and crank seals replaced for 400, so I felt it was worth the risk and extra added hassle. He did drive me home twice when he screwed up so I think he ended up losing out on the job due to all the extra added labor and time spent. He basically had to do the job twice but that's the risk you take if you don't know what you're doing.
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Pretty sad that a 'real mechanic' has such a hard time doing a timing belt on an LS. I'm a software engineer by trade and my first and only timing belt job done myself was on my LS and had no need to take it apart again after... if I were you I'd avoid that 'shop' at all costs, makes me worry what else he did wrong might be lurking around.

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At 255k, my crank seal blew and coated the belt, tensioner and everything in oil. Since I've only worked on Hondas (Accords and Preludes) before my LS400, I gave it to the mechanic to do a big job like this. He even screwed up by not timing it correctly the first time and had to redo it. First time after he completed the job when driving away, I had no power when I eased into the gas pedal and the engine started sputtering. Within a block from leaving the shop I took it back and it took him another day or two to get it right. The second time he didn't even add the correct amount of coolant back and it almost overheated on the way home. I quickly turned around after 4 miles on the highway (luckily cold in January in AZ) and had him add more coolant.

I'm pretty sure it was his first LS400 TB/WP job but I got the TB/WP cam and crank seals replaced for 400, so I felt it was worth the risk and extra added hassle. He did drive me home twice when he screwed up so I think he ended up losing out on the job due to all the extra added labor and time spent. He basically had to do the job twice but that's the risk you take if you don't know what you're doing.

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Originally Posted by djamps
Pretty sad that a 'real mechanic' has such a hard time doing a timing belt on an LS. I'm a software engineer by trade and my first and only timing belt job done myself was on my LS and had no need to take it apart again after... if I were you I'd avoid that 'shop' at all costs, makes me worry what else he did wrong might be lurking around.
dj, I am with you, all the way... if I were tempted to sell an LS, that would be my choice
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Originally Posted by djamps
Pretty sad that a 'real mechanic' has such a hard time doing a timing belt on an LS. I'm a software engineer by trade and my first and only timing belt job done myself was on my LS and had no need to take it apart again after... if I were you I'd avoid that 'shop' at all costs, makes me worry what else he did wrong might be lurking around.
And that can happen at any shop you take your car to. It is caused by working too fast to make the flat rate system work. The customer is always the loser at any flat rate shop period. Quality is not synonymous with fast, and that is why many shop jobs are moused jobs. The dealer is the better bet because they deal with it all the time, and maybe some independents to but most of the time its some new kid on the block(new hire) trying to rush the job out the door for the big bucks and the notoriety, that is twisting the wrenches.

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Originally Posted by djamps
Pretty sad that a 'real mechanic' has such a hard time doing a timing belt on an LS. I'm a software engineer by trade and my first and only timing belt job done myself was on my LS and had no need to take it apart again after... if I were you I'd avoid that 'shop' at all costs, makes me worry what else he did wrong might be lurking around.
Oh there's not a chance in hell that I'll be going back to him. But the car is running fine 18k miles after the service and no oil leaks whatsoever. He was a seasoned/older mechanic, but I don't think he's done too many LS400s. Pretty sad, since his shop name is Tempe Imports. But to his credit, he didn't settle until the car was fixed and running properly. I just wished he would've test driven it for 10 min after he completed the job to make sure it didn't have a tooth off on the timing or an improperly bled cooling system that almost caused an overheat.

I have a feeling that he used the shop 2-3 doors down for assistance, they do 2JZ swaps in SC300s and crazy tuner performance upgrades on Toyotas. I might go to them if I still have the LS400 in another 75k miles and if I'm still in AZ.
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