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Old 07-15-15, 10:11 AM
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Default CV shaft to diff bolt torque

Now that sewell lexus doesnt do parts, I dont have a torque reference!
Anyone know what the spec is on the fine thread M12 socket head cap screws that hold the CV shaft to the Diff stubs? 6 bolts in total. They were HARD coming out. Im guessing around 75 ft lbs?

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The bolt diameter would need to be at least 13 mm diameter, that is the threaded end, to be torqued that high and even then that maybe too high for a fine thread.
They may have had a medium strength locktite that would make them feel tighter. I don't have the spec handy.
If it was a coarse thread English or fractional and had a 1/2 inch hex that would be a 5/16 bolt they torque at around 20 ft lbs. 5/16 is 7.9 mm at the thread end. I would guess not over 20.
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way, way way over 20 foot pounds. I agree could have had a threadlocker (i will certainly be applying some either way). There is a good amount of compression in the joint. Even after getting the initial crack on the bolt (1 foot breaker bar, took probably a good 80-100 foot pounds to crack them) still took about half a turn for them to loosen off completely to hand thread them out.

Its an m12 socket head cap screw . I know this because it takes a 10mm male hex drive, as well as I measured the fastener. 12mm diameter body.

I would be money that 25 foot pounds would get next ot no clamping force on that joint. a grade 12.9 bolt will require a higher torque than a 9.8 because it is resistant to stretching and thus clamping.

Charts show a dry gr 12.9 M12 should be installed at 12 foot pounds. Which it felt like 100 or so at breakaway.




In this case I am guessing install is somewhere around the 120 foot pound mark. Installed dry.

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i would always just refer to the FSM. i know there are folks here with access to one, and unfortunately i am not one of them . over time with age, temperature fluctuations, road salts/debris, etc the bolts would be hard to break initially but they may have been initially torqued low from the factory.
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What does FSM stand for?? factory service manual????
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61 ft/lb, if this is what you're referring to.

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It was guess work like I said. I did not know the size.
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Originally Posted by GH5T
What does FSM stand for?? factory service manual????
Yes..........
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Thank you, I ended up taking them to 75 last night before reading this, close enough.
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61 ft lbs but shold i use lock tight?
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Originally Posted by 333mattlong
61 ft lbs but shold i use lock tight?
Interesting choice of thread to revive after almost 9 years.

Do not use loctite. The manual recommends to put a light coat of engine oil on the bolts. Quite the contrary to loctite.
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