Are there any rare Gen 1's?
#46
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A few weeks ago there were at least 2 cloth seated no moon roof LSs on local cl. I've seen lots of ads with cloth seat interiors, and no moon roofs. Always always they are the base of base cars, zero options. What is rare is full options and pristine, low miles and a decent color, by decent I mean not white, and not black.
I'm pretty sick of the ads that say "loaded" and there are no options. For some reason people seem to think an LS could be bought like a geo metro with no power nothing. And have no idea an automatic was not an option, nor was power windows, nor power seats and mirrors, locks etc. they think that means loaded.
I'm pretty sick of the ads that say "loaded" and there are no options. For some reason people seem to think an LS could be bought like a geo metro with no power nothing. And have no idea an automatic was not an option, nor was power windows, nor power seats and mirrors, locks etc. they think that means loaded.
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In 1991, here were the possible options as listed in a Lexus brochure:
option code :: price :: description
DC :: 900 :: Remote 6-CD Auto-Changer
FT :: No Charge :: All-Season Tires
LA :: 1,400 :: Leather Trim Package
MO :: 800 :: Memory System
NK :: 1,000 :: Lexus/Nakamichi® Premium Audio System, requires DC
SA :: 1,500 :: Adaptive Variable Air Suspension, requires LA, MO and SR
SR :: 900 :: Power Moonroof
TN :: 1,600 :: Traction Control System (TRAC) with Heated Front Seats
So anything not on that list (power locks, leather steering wheel, etc.) was not an option. So these cars were pretty well loaded, even with no options selected.
But now that the car is 26 years old, I'm happy to not have some of these options that would be more likely to cause repair problems than nice features - e.g., air suspension, sunroof, TRAC, memory system, CD changer. If the premium audio caused no problems, that would be nice, maybe. After 26 years and almost 200k miles, I'd take the original cloth seats over the original leather any day.
Yes, advertising something now as if power windows is a good selling point is not very helpful. I think some of the online auto sites do that automatically - give you a huge set of check boxes to choose - you're choosing "features" but they call them "options."
option code :: price :: description
DC :: 900 :: Remote 6-CD Auto-Changer
FT :: No Charge :: All-Season Tires
LA :: 1,400 :: Leather Trim Package
MO :: 800 :: Memory System
NK :: 1,000 :: Lexus/Nakamichi® Premium Audio System, requires DC
SA :: 1,500 :: Adaptive Variable Air Suspension, requires LA, MO and SR
SR :: 900 :: Power Moonroof
TN :: 1,600 :: Traction Control System (TRAC) with Heated Front Seats
So anything not on that list (power locks, leather steering wheel, etc.) was not an option. So these cars were pretty well loaded, even with no options selected.
But now that the car is 26 years old, I'm happy to not have some of these options that would be more likely to cause repair problems than nice features - e.g., air suspension, sunroof, TRAC, memory system, CD changer. If the premium audio caused no problems, that would be nice, maybe. After 26 years and almost 200k miles, I'd take the original cloth seats over the original leather any day.
Yes, advertising something now as if power windows is a good selling point is not very helpful. I think some of the online auto sites do that automatically - give you a huge set of check boxes to choose - you're choosing "features" but they call them "options."
Last edited by oldskewel; 03-14-17 at 10:48 AM.
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My understanding is that for my year at least, 1991, about 40k were built - my Lexus brochure thing says 41,228.
But the last 5 of my VIN are 58769. Just curious.
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i purchased that ls400 you listed lol
Sorry to resurrect an old thread here, but I came across this LS on eBay with a cloth interior. I think this has to be the first LS I've seen with cloth. I know the Celsior had cloth, but really had no idea the LS could be had with a cloth set up..
The car is actually pretty clean, too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Lexus-L...dYQcqI&vxp=mtr
The car is actually pretty clean, too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Lexus-L...dYQcqI&vxp=mtr
I'm the one who purchased that 1990 LS in Illinois. I can't believe I found a forum about it lol. Yes it has the grey cloth interior from factory and is in great shape. The car was from California so it is entirely rust free which is the main reason I purchased the vehicle. It is currently my work car.
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I'm the one who purchased that 1990 LS in Illinois. I can't believe I found a forum about it lol. Yes it has the grey cloth interior from factory and is in great shape. The car was from California so it is entirely rust free which is the main reason I purchased the vehicle. It is currently my work car.
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I have attached an old photo that I took shortly after purchasing the car.
EDIT2: The shifter is also different. It is vinyl instead of leather.
Last edited by CELSI0R; 01-18-18 at 07:58 PM.
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Your shifter is vinyl? Does it not have any stitching on it? I've actually never seen or been in a first generation LS with leather seats but mine seems to have a leather shift lever. I wonder if that's another of those minute differences between the LS and Celsior.
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My 1991 LS400 was built with cloth seats and no sunroof. At the time of original sale, the dealer installed leather interior. I bought this from my in-laws, who were the original owners, so I know the whole story. I never paid much attention to the shifter, but looking at it now, it is not leather.
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When I had a LS400, I only had the leather and sunroof packages - most of the UCF10s I see in the Bay Area had at the least the leather/sunroof/Nak packages on them. And most of those are in rough shape - the junkyards are never without one, I've seen a few creampuff UCF10/20s drive around Walnut Creek or even Lake Merritt on occasion.
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My 1991 LS400 was built with cloth seats and no sunroof. At the time of original sale, the dealer installed leather interior. I bought this from my in-laws, who were the original owners, so I know the whole story. I never paid much attention to the shifter, but looking at it now, it is not leather.
When I had a LS400, I only had the leather and sunroof packages - most of the UCF10s I see in the Bay Area had at the least the leather/sunroof/Nak packages on them. And most of those are in rough shape - the junkyards are never without one, I've seen a few creampuff UCF10/20s drive around Walnut Creek or even Lake Merritt on occasion.