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Old 05-23-13, 03:29 PM
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I'm looking to run between 0 to -2 degrees of camber. No option of running more. Now the set of wheel's I'd like to buy are 17x9.5+15F 17x10.5+20R. With rolled and pulled fenders, can I fit these or will they poke, and look stupid. Tire sizes are whatever will make it fit, I'd imagine 225/45 front and 245 or 255/40. Opinions?!
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I don't think that's going to work on a '62 lincoln continental, you're going to need way wider wheels to get close to flush.


year please.....


And please look in the wheel/tire fitment threads.
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Originally Posted by PureDrifter
I don't think that's going to work on a '62 lincoln continental, you're going to need way wider wheels to get close to flush.


year please.....


And please look in the wheel/tire fitment threads.
I looked at all 80 something pages of that thread. Very few people list their camber, and most of the photos suck at showing flush/poke/camber.

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I would give my input but I have a ucf20.
Approx. -2 in front , -3 in rear. Really not bad in my opinion.
19x9+9 (f), 19x10+13 (r)
225/35/19 (f), 245/35/19 (r)
I can post pics if you'd like.
They sit really flush. Almost no poke.
The difference in width and offset between mine and what you are wanting may be close.
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Originally Posted by TaffyK20si
I would give my input but I have a ucf20.
Approx. -2 in front , -3 in rear. Really not bad in my opinion.
19x9+9 (f), 19x10+13 (r)
225/35/19 (f), 245/35/19 (r)
I can post pics if you'd like.
They sit really flush. Almost no poke.
The difference in width and offset between mine and what you are wanting may be close.
Interesting. Would very much appreciate if you could post some photos. Preferably something from the back looking down the side to show the fitment, or the front if not?
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those offsets won't work for you. UCF2x have a very different suspension setup in terms of fitment, that would be VERY aggressive on a 1st gen.
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Originally Posted by PureDrifter
those offsets won't work for you. UCF2x have a very different suspension setup in terms of fitment, that would be VERY aggressive on a 1st gen.
what makes that so aggressive?

http://toyotatumblin.tumblr.com/post...ht-for-500-not

this car has way more aggressive front offset with a wider wheel. The rear i could see being a problem but with more camber/skinnier tire and maybe a little pull maybe?
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On my 91 UCF10 I'm not running 17s but 18s. The fronts are 18x10 with a +7 and the rears are 18x12 with a +13.

Here's picture of the fronts with the 18x10s and by mistake my tire guy put the wrong size on but I took a pic anyways just in case if anyone on here needed pics of a 215/40/18 tire on an 18x10 wheel. Keep in mind these pics are before alignment and it's on natural camber from lowering the car.









The rears I have a 18x12 +7 wheel with a 255/35 tire mounted to it.







After the alignment and some tender loving care of the fender roller









Specs in the end:
Front 18x10 +7 215/35/18 with -4 camber
Rears 18x12 +13 255/35/18 with -4.5 camber

I was going to run zero camber with smaller wheels for what I've discussed with you on PM but after talking to several people at events they recommend me to keep my camber and raise the car up. The camber when let me break the traction easier versus running zero camber because our cars are pigs and with the motor being under powered with all these restrictions it's harder to brake traction. Hope that helps you with your question.
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Originally Posted by PureDrifter
those offsets won't work for you. UCF2x have a very different suspension setup in terms of fitment, that would be VERY aggressive on a 1st gen.
Why don't you chime in and tell him weather the sizes he has listed that he wants will work then? Since you seem to know. Rather than just "that won't work for you". And may I ask, how do you know? According to your signature you've never owned a ucf10. Can you back that up with some real information. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by racersky
On my 91 UCF10 I'm not running 17s but 18s. The fronts are 18x10 with a +7 and the rears are 18x12 with a +13.

Here's picture of the fronts with the 18x10s and by mistake my tire guy put the wrong size on but I took a pic anyways just in case if anyone on here needed pics of a 215/40/18 tire on an 18x10 wheel. Keep in mind these pics are before alignment and it's on natural camber from lowering the car.

[img]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5328/8801417571_d6b4fbe1ac_z.jpg[img]

[img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7460/8812008874_1e9308f6a6_z.jpg[img]

[img]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/8801427551_52ac70c433_z.jpg[img]

[img]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2820/8812017548_3816e0d095_z.jpg[img]

The rears I have a 18x12 +7 wheel with a 255/35 tire mounted to it.

[img]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5342/8801432363_50ab1c8642_z.jpg[img]

[img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7354/8812025640_fda4b58e91_z.jpg[img]

[img]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5347/8801439863_f83c727f7e_z.jpg[img]

After the alignment and some tender loving care of the fender roller

[img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7404/8812031820_1660c961ca_z.jpg[img]

[img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7417/8801446889_94060ae520_z.jpg[img]

[img]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5448/8812038338_bb835f88b7_z.jpg[img]

[img]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5441/8812042152_711020ef6b_z.jpg[img]

Specs in the end:
Front 18x10 +7 215/35/18 with -4 camber
Rears 18x12 +13 255/35/18 with -4.5 camber

I was going to run zero camber with smaller wheels for what I've discussed with you on PM but after talking to several people at events they recommend me to keep my camber and raise the car up. The camber when let me break the traction easier versus running zero camber because our cars are pigs and with the motor being under powered with all these restrictions it's harder to brake traction. Hope that helps you with your question.
Shiiiiit! Yeah man, that helped. Looks like they won't be able to fit. The 10.5 +20 is 32mm more sunk than yours. Doesn't look like the 1.25" of sunk is going to allow me to fit the entire wheel in without an aggressive stretch which I would prefer not to do. Damn .


Edit: Just found the same wheel in a 10.5 +27 option. Basing this off another car I've seen on here, I am figuring they should fit after doing the math. Opinions? Borrowed from the wheel fitment thread. 18x9.5+15 with 255/40's in the back. Looks like very low camber to me.

Now, doing the math for me it comes out to:

x9.5 +15
x10 +21.35
x10.5 +27.7

So in theory, if my conversions are correct it should fit no?

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Originally Posted by JustADream
what makes that so aggressive?

http://toyotatumblin.tumblr.com/post...ht-for-500-not

this car has way more aggressive front offset with a wider wheel. The rear i could see being a problem but with more camber/skinnier tire and maybe a little pull maybe?
iirc that guy had maxed out th efront camber and still poked, find a pic of the car head on and you'll see what i'm talking about. His fenders didn't get much love from those wheels either, and iirc he ended up switching to some MUCH more conservative wheels afterwards.

Originally Posted by TaffyK20si
Why don't you chime in and tell him weather the sizes he has listed that he wants will work then? Since you seem to know. Rather than just "that won't work for you". And may I ask, how do you know? According to your signature you've never owned a ucf10. Can you back that up with some real information. Thanks.
Yes, because in 9 years i've never once fitted or worked on a UCF1x chassis .

Op said "With rolled and pulled fenders, can I fit these or will they poke, and look stupid." The answer to that is "No." since the front fitment you suggested will poke on a 1st gen unless you camber it about 3+*, and even then will have some "poke". The rear will not work properly.

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for the rear of a 1st gen 10.5 +27 will require camber and a stretch to fit, and may still require overpulling the fender or dealing with excess poke depending on ride height.

OP this may help:
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator
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Originally Posted by PureDrifter
iirc that guy had maxed out th efront camber and still poked, find a pic of the car head on and you'll see what i'm talking about. His fenders didn't get much love from those wheels either, and iirc he ended up switching to some MUCH more conservative wheels afterwards.



there is a decent bit of camber but i don't think that is "maxed" out. I have the same wheels as this car and was hoping to run a similar set up with 18x10 all around and et0 front and et7 rear
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Originally Posted by PureDrifter
for the rear of a 1st gen 10.5 +27 will require camber and a stretch to fit, and may still require overpulling the fender or dealing with excess poke depending on ride height.

OP this may help:
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

Can't find the tire sizes, but these are the specs for the wheels I want. Realistically with a pull, -2* and some thinner tires, thinking 255/40, I imagine they'd fit. You think so?

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you're either going need more camber (~3-3.5), a bigger stretch, a pull, or all 3.

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