'90 LS400 massive lack of power issue
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'90 LS400 massive lack of power issue
I have a 90 LS, recent water pump done a month ago aswell as plugs and wires a couple of weeks before that. About 2 weeks ago while driving, the car decided to start dumping fuel in and lost a lot of power.
-236k miles on the ODO
-It also now takes longer to achieve operating temp and longer to shift up.
-CEL is not on (bulb is definitely ok, light stayed on simultaneously with 'TCS off' light before the replacment of water pump and both shut off after the replacement, not sure why)
-Engine has shut off in the middle of a 3 point turn (going from reverse to D) and while stopped at a light. (that was today while driving to work, have since started it up and has NOT shut off while idling)
-MAF has been replaced with a used one, also unplugging eithier maf showed no differance, as well as cleaning them with MAF cleaner.
-Initially, when I first put it on a lift the Cat's were glowing red hot so I replaced them with pipes (I'm not exactly rolling in dough) thinking they were clogged.
After doing research on the knock sensor and crank sensor, both seem to have CEL on as a sympton, and don't exactly have the same symptons as mine.
I am not in financial position to keep throwing parts at it, so any info would be GREATLY appreciated.
-236k miles on the ODO
-It also now takes longer to achieve operating temp and longer to shift up.
-CEL is not on (bulb is definitely ok, light stayed on simultaneously with 'TCS off' light before the replacment of water pump and both shut off after the replacement, not sure why)
-Engine has shut off in the middle of a 3 point turn (going from reverse to D) and while stopped at a light. (that was today while driving to work, have since started it up and has NOT shut off while idling)
-MAF has been replaced with a used one, also unplugging eithier maf showed no differance, as well as cleaning them with MAF cleaner.
-Initially, when I first put it on a lift the Cat's were glowing red hot so I replaced them with pipes (I'm not exactly rolling in dough) thinking they were clogged.
After doing research on the knock sensor and crank sensor, both seem to have CEL on as a sympton, and don't exactly have the same symptons as mine.
I am not in financial position to keep throwing parts at it, so any info would be GREATLY appreciated.
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from another thread. it seem it could be that your ECU capacitors are defective (common). check out the link in the quote below.
if it running very rich, with bad smelling exhaust and glowing cats, this is classic open loop operation, which can be caused by a malfunctioning ECU or several other reasons. the capacitor problem doesn't always show up under visual inspection, mine had to get really bad before there was any visible clue. - If you are a good solderer and have patience and attention to detail, then just replace the caps with the premium Japanese ones as detailed and linked to in post #1 of my ECU repair thread and eliminate that as a possibility - ECU cap problems are not a case of if it is going to happen, but rather, when!
PS - Florida seems to be the #1 state for ECU cap issues, must be the heat + humidity + salt air?
PS - Florida seems to be the #1 state for ECU cap issues, must be the heat + humidity + salt air?
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these symptoms show the car was going into open loop operation, a strong indicator of a sick ECU, but certainly not the only possible cause.
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You guys are awesome!
I'll go pull the ecu and check the condition of the caps.
If it is the caps, would purchasing them from a electronics store be ok, or am I better off ordering them from Digikey?
Also called up autozone, they have a coolant temp sensor for 25$ w/ lifetime warranty, but I've heard of LS's having 3 temp sensors, how would I know its the one I'm looking for without pulling out the old one first?
I'll go pull the ecu and check the condition of the caps.
If it is the caps, would purchasing them from a electronics store be ok, or am I better off ordering them from Digikey?
Also called up autozone, they have a coolant temp sensor for 25$ w/ lifetime warranty, but I've heard of LS's having 3 temp sensors, how would I know its the one I'm looking for without pulling out the old one first?
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Also called up autozone, they have a coolant temp sensor for 25$ w/ lifetime warranty, but I've heard of LS's having 3 temp sensors, how would I know its the one I'm looking for without pulling out the old one first?
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The early 400's MAF shouldn't be cleaned. This thing is pretty sensitive to cleaners. Are one or both of the cats getting hot? Might be a coil. Hard to tell with out codes. Good luck.
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