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Old 03-17-11, 05:06 PM
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Changing spark plugs 20k miles before they are scheduled to be changed.
Ripped a spark plug boot. Lexus won't sell the boot by itself, only as a package with the coil pack. What an f'n rip off!
The boot is a separate piece completely. Now I gotta spend ~$100 for a crappy $10 part. And I still have the drivers side rear one stuck in there. If I can't get it out tomorrow morning, there's another $100.
What a scam. Shouldn't be surprised though.
Old 03-17-11, 05:12 PM
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So that's $100 for 1 boot?
Old 03-17-11, 05:34 PM
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thats dumb...www.rockauto.com ftw
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i thought the boot was integrated into the coil, which is why they dont sell them separately

regardless, you could just pick up a cheap used coil off an LS/GS/SC from a yard....they go for ~$25-50.
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Nope, completely separate pieces pretty much held together by compression only.
I'll check the local yards. Hard as hell to find a Lexus in one around here though.
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You are taking the spark plug wire boot that attaches to the cap?

Find an ignition or speed shop. Back in the days, they would custom cut the wires and glue the boots onto the wire. Take your pick of angle for the boot 30, 45 or straight. If the wires are sufficiently old, might as well buy a set and replace.
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www.car-part.com

mike, 98-00 have COP, not Coil near Plug like the old turbo supras.
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Originally Posted by Schnitz
Changing spark plugs 20k miles before they are scheduled to be changed.
Ripped a spark plug boot. Lexus won't sell the boot by itself, only as a package with the coil pack. What an f'n rip off!
The boot is a separate piece completely. Now I gotta spend ~$100 for a crappy $10 part. And I still have the drivers side rear one stuck in there. If I can't get it out tomorrow morning, there's another $100.
What a scam. Shouldn't be surprised though.
Could you take a picture of the boot and the length? I have an idea that may help you out on the cheap-cheap if you know what I mean

James
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Thanks for the update PD. Any pics?

I keep coming across the coil packs and not the specific wire...probably doing the search wrong.
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Try buying the BMW equivalent before brandishing the rip off pricing at Lexus .
maybe i might buy the old coils off you.
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Regardless of manufacturer, its a rip off tactic plain and simple.
FYI Ford sells theirs separately for $12 a piece. I never had one rip in either of my mod motor Mustangs after 30 spark plug changes.
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Originally Posted by Schnitz
Regardless of manufacturer, its a rip off tactic plain and simple.
FYI Ford sells theirs separately for $12 a piece. I never had one rip in either of my mod motor Mustangs after 30 spark plug changes.
So where is that pic? We do not have all day
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Well it takes experience/training to make sure you use di-electric grease in the boots and to twist them on removal so they don't rip. Previous owner never changed them or put grease otherwise they would not have ripped .
Still can't blame Lexus because they don't sell every minute part separately . I should know i need a 3 cent diode on my wiring harness but it is only included with a complete harness . Oh well those are the breaks.
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thAts lexus for you smh
Old 03-21-11, 05:33 AM
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These were the stock plugs seeing as they weren't scheduled to be changed for another 20k miles. So Lexus didn't grease the boots when they installed them at the factory and then won't sell them separately. See where this is going?
I guess Lexus doesn't have experience or training.

It doesn't matter either way. No amount of grease is going to last 100k miles. Poor design with poor support.


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