Post up Recent pixs of YOUR car (LS400s)
09-17-13, 11:15 PM
#5596
09-18-13, 01:09 AM
#5597
plus i think you're grossly overestimating the spacing, you can cut the rear shock overall length by maybe ~20% but the rears need to be longer than the fronts.
That being said, if you're going to do this make sure to get some really stiff front springs and have the shocks revalved for them. otherwise the car's going to be super twitchy if you match the front and rear spring rates on such a front-heavy car.
Also, bottoming the shock itself out (by running lots of negative spring preload aka "sag") doesn't change the damping at all (as it's a fixed characteristic), but it does cause reliability issues when the piston completely bottoms out as it can damage itself.
Lastly:
dampening= spraying something with a water hose.
damping= changing (decreasing, strictly speaking) the amplitude of an oscillation.
Last edited by PureDrifter; 09-18-13 at 01:14 AM.
09-19-13, 06:10 PM
#5601
because the spring rate for load would be quite off. The fronts are higher springrate than the rear because of the increased weight int he front and to set handling balance.
plus i think you're grossly overestimating the spacing, you can cut the rear shock overall length by maybe ~20% but the rears need to be longer than the fronts.
That being said, if you're going to do this make sure to get some really stiff front springs and have the shocks revalved for them. otherwise the car's going to be super twitchy if you match the front and rear spring rates on such a front-heavy car.
Also, bottoming the shock itself out (by running lots of negative spring preload aka "sag") doesn't change the damping at all (as it's a fixed characteristic), but it does cause reliability issues when the piston completely bottoms out as it can damage itself.
Lastly:
dampening= spraying something with a water hose.
damping= changing (decreasing, strictly speaking) the amplitude of an oscillation.
plus i think you're grossly overestimating the spacing, you can cut the rear shock overall length by maybe ~20% but the rears need to be longer than the fronts.
That being said, if you're going to do this make sure to get some really stiff front springs and have the shocks revalved for them. otherwise the car's going to be super twitchy if you match the front and rear spring rates on such a front-heavy car.
Also, bottoming the shock itself out (by running lots of negative spring preload aka "sag") doesn't change the damping at all (as it's a fixed characteristic), but it does cause reliability issues when the piston completely bottoms out as it can damage itself.
Lastly:
dampening= spraying something with a water hose.
damping= changing (decreasing, strictly speaking) the amplitude of an oscillation.
Ha no need for a English class dad.. Just cause I got auto corrected by my tablet doesn't mean I'm a idiot... Now back to the topic instead of trying to belittle people on the internet.
I could do everything you listed I suppose... As far as valving and higher spring rates. I am already running a 10kg springs instead of the stock 8kg in the rear. But at that point I think I'd rather get 18's or a whole different set of coils that will go lower with out sag or mod's
09-20-13, 09:31 AM
#5603
Ha no need for a English class dad.. Just cause I got auto corrected by my tablet doesn't mean I'm a idiot... Now back to the topic instead of trying to belittle people on the internet.
I could do everything you listed I suppose... As far as valving and higher spring rates. I am already running a 10kg springs instead of the stock 8kg in the rear. But at that point I think I'd rather get 18's or a whole different set of coils that will go lower with out sag or mod's
I could do everything you listed I suppose... As far as valving and higher spring rates. I am already running a 10kg springs instead of the stock 8kg in the rear. But at that point I think I'd rather get 18's or a whole different set of coils that will go lower with out sag or mod's
But yeah, some "super-low" style coilovers from BC/PBM/F&F may be a better idea.
in comparison to a UCF2x coilover like TeinCS, pretty much. But if you're on bags it won't matter a ridiculous amount.
09-20-13, 10:36 AM
#5604
lol I didn't say anything to "belittle" you, but I did bring up some valid points about your idea to swap the front coils into the rear.
But yeah, some "super-low" style coilovers from BC/PBM/F&F may be a better idea.
in comparison to a UCF2x coilover like TeinCS, pretty much. But if you're on bags it won't matter a ridiculous amount.
But yeah, some "super-low" style coilovers from BC/PBM/F&F may be a better idea.
in comparison to a UCF2x coilover like TeinCS, pretty much. But if you're on bags it won't matter a ridiculous amount.
09-20-13, 04:09 PM
#5608
I don't have a ton of experience with coil overs for these cars beyond my BC's. I do have a lot of experience with coil overs for a multitude of other applications and I can say that my BC's were worth the money. They are no way close to as comfortable as stock but at the same time no where near as comfortable as say KW V1s or Bilstein PSS9 for other applications which use double springs.
That said, with my coils as low as >> I CAN << go and still be able to get over speedbumps and in and out of my driveway, and set pretty soft on the dampning, the ride is very very nice on smooth roads. Bumps, ruts and even small heaves or shallow pot holes are infinitely more harsh than on my last car which was much lower on V1s.
I need to replace the rest of my suspension parts, mod the fenders a bit more, get it aligned and notch the towers all in prep for air...
That said, with my coils as low as >> I CAN << go and still be able to get over speedbumps and in and out of my driveway, and set pretty soft on the dampning, the ride is very very nice on smooth roads. Bumps, ruts and even small heaves or shallow pot holes are infinitely more harsh than on my last car which was much lower on V1s.
I need to replace the rest of my suspension parts, mod the fenders a bit more, get it aligned and notch the towers all in prep for air...
09-20-13, 05:46 PM
#5609
Ah, awesome! I was actually highly considering the EZs (nice price, rubber mounts [supposedly quieter than pillow] and relatively soft). So this order also doubles as which coilovers would best respond to an air bag conversion? (I'm piecing together my bag-over setup so I know EXACTLY what to get, per my expectations)
Last edited by Sc0pe; 09-21-13 at 12:14 AM.