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Old 04-02-08, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Neofate
You guys mention 'rolling fenders' alot. I can't picture it in my head. What do you do when you are rolling fenders?

Feel under the fender and you will feel a lip. This lip is either rolled (bent) upwards or cut to allow a wider tire to fit between the hub and fender.

It sounds like a manual job,.. What tools are you using, what are you doing?

There is a fender rolling tool available at some shops that attaches to the hub. Some use a baseball bat? I had mine cut with an air saw and it was less than $50 as I recall.


Also, doesn't the LS come with 45mm offset standard?

I believe the OEM setup is 45mm.

With this offset that means the wheel is 45mm to the inside of the body panel, or pushed out that far?

Don't know what this means but am guessing it refers to how far inward the wheel sits.

When you change to 35mm you are pushing the wheel out (but 10mm less than factory I assume?)

Definitely pushes it out an additional 10mm. Enough that with a 275 or 285 40series tire the fender lip had to be trimmed to avoid rubbing.

I've noticed on stock, the wheels are too far in on the wheel wells. So would a higher offset push the wheels out, for a more agressive look? (Or am I mistaking offset for spacers.. if so explain the difference please )
If you decrease the offset number (from 45 to 35) then it will make the wheel be pushed out or atleast it did in my case. I chose 35mm because I did not want to use spacers.

Here is an example of trimming the fender versus rolling it. I only cut it because nobody would roll it in Houston.
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Old 04-02-08, 11:49 AM
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lower offset=wheel pushed OUTWARD more (aggressive)
higher offset=wheel pulled in TOWARD the car (conservative)

rolling/cutting the fender involves modifying the lip on the inner edge of the fender so you can gain more clearance.
Old 04-02-08, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by steveski
Just so you know with my 35mm offset 18"s and 245/40's the tires rubbed when I hit a dip or a bump but rarely in turns. I trimmed the fenders 1/8" and now they are fine. If I had 225 or 235's I don't think they would rub though.

Even if you buy a similar set up and have to roll/trim it is inexpensive to do though.

Looking forward to seeing your selection and pics bro.
Thanks for the info, Steve! Now I need to decide if the wheels I want require spacers and if so, what depth.

Never thought new wheels could be such an exact science. The reward will be worth it, though.
Old 04-02-08, 02:23 PM
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No problem bro. It depends on the look you are going for. For me I wanted the fattest tires I could cram in the well that would fit on my wheel(s). For me I did not care about rolling/cutting fenders since it got me where I wanted to be.

The right wheel is a &^#% especially with the high disk in the front! I went through several sets before finding the right one. Many were mounted and hit the caliper when they spun it.
Old 04-03-08, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PK_Celsior
i would go with the H&R springs : X
Are H&R springs going to lower it enough to make it look good with 19's?

Les Schwab said that the H&R's lower it only 1".

Tanabe DF210's lower about 1.8, to about 2" after they settle a little.

Any thoughts?
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yes but the H&R are actually useable for sport springs.

the Tanabe are VERY soft.
Old 04-03-08, 06:06 PM
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Ok... good to know!

Do the H&R's "settle" a little like I mentioned the Tanabes do?
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every spring will "settle" but not much, maximum 1/4-1/2in.
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Tanabe too soft. I rather op for the H&R. It looks like my Tanabe spring didnt even lower what its suppose to. Looks stock to me lol.
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Just to chime in with actual experience. I bought a used set of Tanabe DF 210's. I put them on last December, drove the car and then immediately took them off. I went back to the H&R's. They were really soft compared to the H&R's. They have their purpose - if you want a sporty, responsive ride they are not a good choice - the H&R and probably Eibach are better suited.
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i have 19x8 +20 with 235/35 front and 19x9.5 +20 255/35 rear, and had to cut rear quarters even stock height. Have df210's and they ride great, just not low enough for my taste. Will hold me over till I have money for coilovers though, and i'll sell the df's.
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Do you have any pics of your set up? I am curious what +20 offset looks like as I have +35 and still had to cut the lip with 275's.
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are there any springs that go lower than tanabes DF210s?
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nope, unless u start looking at some of the smaller companies in Japan...
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Bad pics but you may get the drift. Needs more low BADLY!






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