ClubLexus - Lexus Forum Discussion - InsideLine roadtrip with LFA, GT2 and GT-R (merged threads)

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX (Post 6305384)

This is a production model and not a pre-production one right? Crap, they need to re-test the LFA with production models with low miles again :D

Yep. That is the #032 production LFA that was used in the driver development program. I think it still has low mileage on it. They did full track tests this morning. Dyno was done yesterday.

Sweet sounding engine.

Dynojets are known to read higher than mustang dynos, sometimes as much as a 10% difference depending on how the dynos are set up.

i will own one when i win the lottery. :)

I wonder if people would be surprised by the notion that the "highest ever revving production street engine" belongs to a Lexus. :D

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Originally Posted by jpvarghese (Post 6303269)

MR F1 (I love that handle, BTW), didn't Car and Driver have a chart showing 75 HP less on their dyno? That's a huge variance, although it was on a Mustang dyno IIRC. However, this test shows that this particular motor is strong and common sense tells me it's hard to tweak a high-strung motor. If the LFA has 600 HP, it will show in Inside Line's upcoming drag and acceleration tests. I hope it, at the minimum, matches the Italia's times and smacks the GT-R in all tests. There's nothing more that I can't stand than a GT-R fan boy.:p

Toyota and Yamaha are pretty good at maximizing horsepower and in a safe manner. You're right, its hard to tweak a high-strung motor, or any Toyota motor in that respect. Mustang vs. dynojet dynos and others will always have a variance.

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Originally Posted by SH_JZZ30 (Post 6303354)

I wonder what kind of fuel they were using. Since it's in Cali, wouldn't it be 91? Over here 93 is premium.

Its most likely 91 octane (premium). Race fuel would be cool but there aren't very many gas stations here in southern california that offer anything beyond 91. Unless you look hard for those needle in a haystack Union 76 or Sunoco stations at the tracks.

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Originally Posted by 07grIS350 (Post 6303375)

Interesting development. I hope they have the LFA up to 650 HP by 2012 :)

I really doubt Lexus will up the HP for newer models. That would 1) piss off existing LFA owners, 2) Will result in diminished value of the existing first year production LFAs.

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These numbers are probably true as I recalled that both the instructor and I had a hard time getting clean acceleration runs in this very same LFA at Infineon. We were losing tractions in 2nd and 3rd gears. They blamed the track surface, but perhaps LC was required to handle all this power?

Yeah the track conditions at Infineon could be a factor, as well as the tires and the condition they were in from the time they were doing acceleration runs.

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX (Post 6305384)

This is a production model and not a pre-production one right? Crap, they need to re-test the LFA with production models with low miles again :D

As far as the folks at Edmunds, hopefully they didn't damage the car since it will be used this coming weekend. :D

This is the Black LFA#032 which will be running the streets at the Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach starting this Friday. ;) You're going to find something different about this LFA this coming weekend as well as a homecoming from someone that has probably been around this track the most of any person out there.

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...x477-84217.jpg

You know Glendora Mountain Road. It's been the star of other videos and stories on IL in the past. Well, today we absolutely destroyed it in the LFA. Video after the jump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1hfF...layer_embedded

There are few cars on earth more rewarding on this road than an LFA. Faster? Yes. Scarier? Certainly. But more rewarding? No.

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...x477-84220.jpg

Here's what Road test editor Mike Monticello had to say about hammering the LFA on one of the world's most challenging driving roads:

"If the rest of this LFA road trip were to go bust for some reason, it wouldn't matter one bit to me. Why? Because we got to run Lexus' supercar up and down Glendora Mountain Road.

Hard.

Great road. Phenomenal car, and finally off the highway and its element. GMR's twisties showed off the LFA's phenomenal turn-in and roadholding, while its shrieking V10 rocketed the front-engine wonder with scary-fast speed. It's utter fun, but everything happens with the speed of a cracking whip. One hundred percent concentration is required at all times. The 4.8-liter V10 isn't big on torque, but it still has plenty of sauce to break the rear tires loose. Terrific fun, and then you remember you're sliding around an extremely rare $375,000 machine.

The front end is a little vague at times and the steering could offer a bit more weight, especially in lower-speed corners where the LFA will push a bit. But in general, this is a fantastic machine with which to tear up a two-lane mountain road. And man, I've never rev-matched revs on downshifts so well in my life. I'm awesome. Oh, wait.

One thing's for sure: That triple-outlet exhaust means you have absolutely no chance of sneaking up on anyone. Ever."

So put that in your fun pipe and smoke it.

Love the video of the LFA going up GMR.

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Originally Posted by GFerg (Post 6304543)

I really appreciate what Edmunds is doing here by giving us a play by play of their daily activities with the LFA.

Yes, I'm a big fan of the format. It allows for more information and attention to detail than a typical magazine's manufactured conclusive review. Like Chris Harris' reviews (esp. the video ones) it allows for more "reading between the lines" which is critical in car reviews to truly understand what the reviewers like and dislike about the car. Definitely draws me in as a reader as well.

After driving the LFA up and down a twisty mountain road the author (Mike Monticello) sounds like a kid on Christmas morning ...and that's exactly how I'd expect him to be. Well done Lexus :cool:

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Originally Posted by 07grIS350 (Post 6303375)

Interesting development. I hope they have the LFA up to 650 HP by 2012 :)

07, My hope is that Lexus offers a power upgrade package, much like what McLaren did for F1 owners, to give the car a relevant update.

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Originally Posted by jpvarghese (Post 6306425)

07, My hope is that Lexus offers a power upgrade package, much like what McLaren did for F1 owners, to give the car a relevant update.

I'll take that too.:D

I will post up later on today details.

LFA ran a 11.6@124 mph. They claim LFA has no launch control (what?) so they did the old flawed neutral dropping.

They did a head to head drag race of GT2 RS and LFA and they both were neck and neck all the way through 1/4 mile with LFA slightly ahead.

LFA also pulled a 75.2 mph slalom speed.

Looks like IL doesn't know how to use LC so they made stuff up along the way:

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ch-an-lfa.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTL9VPxuC_w

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...x477-84180.jpg

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Originally Posted by Edmunds IL

Technically, there's no launch control in the Lexus LFA. That doesn't mean they didn't give us a few pointers for how to get the best 0-60 time.

And then we tried a few methods of our own. Jacquot shows you how to do it should you ever end up in an LFA and need to get going very, very quickly.

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Originally Posted by 05RollaXRS (Post 6307525)

You mean this?

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6307595-post27.html

I really think Lexus did not want them using LC to save the transmission knowing they would probably over use it and destroy the trans. Afterall, this car needs to stay driveable for years to come.