CA 2016 GS F Ultrasonic Blue over Red Int Fully Loaded, Clear Bra, Apex n1 Exhaust
11-24-17, 08:32 PM
#17
You are comparing 18k mile car without knowing Tires, Brakes, dings, scratches...etc
There is a reason car ended up at the Auction, Clean car will sell at the dealer unless it's priced really high or they just want to send it to Auction to clean their inventory.
Good luck finding 3k mile GS F in this condition at Manheim or any wholesale dealer auction anytime soon.
11-25-17, 07:45 AM
#18
If you are not interested, don't bash the thread with Auction price.
You are comparing 18k mile car without knowing Tires, Brakes, dings, scratches...etc
There is a reason car ended up at the Auction, Clean car will sell at the dealer unless it's priced really high or they just want to send it to Auction to clean their inventory.
Good luck finding 3k mile GS F in this condition at Manheim or any wholesale dealer auction anytime soon.
You are comparing 18k mile car without knowing Tires, Brakes, dings, scratches...etc
There is a reason car ended up at the Auction, Clean car will sell at the dealer unless it's priced really high or they just want to send it to Auction to clean their inventory.
Good luck finding 3k mile GS F in this condition at Manheim or any wholesale dealer auction anytime soon.
11-26-17, 01:32 PM
#19
Manheim sells approx 4.5 million cars per year, yes 4.5 million, not a typo, about half are banks, rental, factory, commercial consignors who sell repos, lease returns, aging fleets, etc. (toyota/lexus financial is one) some use other auction platforms as well. The other gentleman is correct though also... the other half are dealers or wholesalers selling aging cars from their lots, or cars that don't fit their business model. What MMR doesn't say, he is also correct, doesn't adjust for stuff like a mint perfect car, or tire life, brake life etc, although they are starting to incorporate that sort of thing, but overall MMR is just a guide for dealers, and it doesn't work that well for cars of limited production IE ISF, GSF, etc, but its very accurate on cars like tahoes, or camrys, where there is a lot examples. MMR also doesn't talk about the 5-800.00 in buy and sell fees on each side, or 100-1,000.00 in transport costs, or 5,00-1,500.000 in reconditioning costs that dealers incur when acquiring inventory to get it able to be retailed. So MMR is relevant in certain circumstances, but only if youre a dealer is MMR used because Manheim doesnt sell to non dealers (for the most part). Its based on real transactional data, so it is real values, but it can change dramatically (up or down) depending how many of the units have gone through in a given week, less examples, means its a little less accurate and subject to a lot more fluctuation.
The MMR he posted is accurate, however for cars with 16-20000 miles. but a retail buyer cant expect to pay dealer MMR. doesnt work that way.
Manheim sells cars anywhere from 50-100.00 junkers going to scrap lots, all the way up to million dollar bugatti's.
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11-26-17, 05:58 PM
#20
One of the rare occasions i'll partially agree with you Koylan. As someone who works for the parent company who owns Manheim, Autotrader, KBB and other entities as well...
Manheim sells approx 4.5 million cars per year, yes 4.5 million, not a typo, about half are banks, rental, factory, commercial consignors who sell repos, lease returns, aging fleets, etc. (toyota/lexus financial is one) some use other auction platforms as well. The other gentleman is correct though also... the other half are dealers or wholesalers selling aging cars from their lots, or cars that don't fit their business model. What MMR doesn't say, he is also correct, doesn't adjust for stuff like a mint perfect car, or tire life, brake life etc, although they are starting to incorporate that sort of thing, but overall MMR is just a guide for dealers, and it doesn't work that well for cars of limited production IE ISF, GSF, etc, but its very accurate on cars like tahoes, or camrys, where there is a lot examples. MMR also doesn't talk about the 5-800.00 in buy and sell fees on each side, or 100-1,000.00 in transport costs, or 5,00-1,500.000 in reconditioning costs that dealers incur when acquiring inventory to get it able to be retailed. So MMR is relevant in certain circumstances, but only if youre a dealer is MMR used because Manheim doesnt sell to non dealers (for the most part). Its based on real transactional data, so it is real values, but it can change dramatically (up or down) depending how many of the units have gone through in a given week, less examples, means its a little less accurate and subject to a lot more fluctuation.
The MMR he posted is accurate, however for cars with 16-20000 miles. but a retail buyer cant expect to pay dealer MMR. doesnt work that way.
Manheim sells cars anywhere from 50-100.00 junkers going to scrap lots, all the way up to million dollar bugatti's.
Manheim sells approx 4.5 million cars per year, yes 4.5 million, not a typo, about half are banks, rental, factory, commercial consignors who sell repos, lease returns, aging fleets, etc. (toyota/lexus financial is one) some use other auction platforms as well. The other gentleman is correct though also... the other half are dealers or wholesalers selling aging cars from their lots, or cars that don't fit their business model. What MMR doesn't say, he is also correct, doesn't adjust for stuff like a mint perfect car, or tire life, brake life etc, although they are starting to incorporate that sort of thing, but overall MMR is just a guide for dealers, and it doesn't work that well for cars of limited production IE ISF, GSF, etc, but its very accurate on cars like tahoes, or camrys, where there is a lot examples. MMR also doesn't talk about the 5-800.00 in buy and sell fees on each side, or 100-1,000.00 in transport costs, or 5,00-1,500.000 in reconditioning costs that dealers incur when acquiring inventory to get it able to be retailed. So MMR is relevant in certain circumstances, but only if youre a dealer is MMR used because Manheim doesnt sell to non dealers (for the most part). Its based on real transactional data, so it is real values, but it can change dramatically (up or down) depending how many of the units have gone through in a given week, less examples, means its a little less accurate and subject to a lot more fluctuation.
The MMR he posted is accurate, however for cars with 16-20000 miles. but a retail buyer cant expect to pay dealer MMR. doesnt work that way.
Manheim sells cars anywhere from 50-100.00 junkers going to scrap lots, all the way up to million dollar bugatti's.
having access to auctions, most of my personal cars I buy retail or private party because they come out roughly same price as auction or even cheaper in some cases.
08-12-18, 11:21 AM
#30
Folks, Dropping the price to $57k for a quick sale! This is an excellent price for someone who is looking for a barely used GS F.
Car only has 6k miles, Just had fresh oil change, AC Cabin Filter change...As per dealer's inspection, Front Tires are at 90%, Rears are at 80%
Brakes have over 90% life left.
if you guys have a specific question, feel free to txt/call or PM me directly.
Car only has 6k miles, Just had fresh oil change, AC Cabin Filter change...As per dealer's inspection, Front Tires are at 90%, Rears are at 80%
Brakes have over 90% life left.
if you guys have a specific question, feel free to txt/call or PM me directly.
Last edited by Salil022; 08-16-18 at 12:11 AM.