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Old 10-25-18, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by uchujin View Post
the occasional roll-out on dry Winter days.
Read my link in post #9 above!

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Old 10-25-18, 12:07 PM
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Read my link in post #9 above!

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Well aware. "roll-out" = just in and out of the garage - enough to change the resting position of the tires - and let her run long enough to get her juices flowin.
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Old 11-03-18, 06:09 PM
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Hello folks! Been pondering purchase of an LC myself and live in the wintry climate of Boston. I also may drive it through the winter season but not intentionally through snowstorms like chiroppa. When I had my GX, I used an ATEQ Quickset to swap between factory original TPMS rims and aftermarket winter TPMS rims; wonder if it would work with the LC also:

https://www.ateq-tpms.com/en-us/prod...ms-reset-tool/

*UPDATE*: Seems the LC is listed as a supported model
Bummer. I just read through the documentation and... no MacOS support. Windows only. I did away with Windows everything and migrated to Apple everything - years ago. Best decision I ever made. I could run a virtual Windows OS on my Mac, but... just not gonna go there. I'll have to search for a comparable device that supports MacOS, or perhaps even an iOS app.
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Old 11-05-18, 08:18 PM
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Hi again Uchujin! Don't tell me you are considering a set of winter rims now, hence looking at the ATEQ? I thought you were keeping your baby far from the nastiness of New England winter driving?
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Old 11-06-18, 05:35 AM
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Hi again Uchujin! Don't tell me you are considering a set of winter rims now, hence looking at the ATEQ? I thought you were keeping your baby far from the nastiness of New England winter driving?
Not exactly... I store my vehicle on Flatstoppers with the factory wheels/tires during winter, and keep my nicer Vossen setup in my warmer basement. I can live with the system throwing a TPMS error during the winter (since I'm not driving it), but I also put my stock setup on the car whenever it goes in for service. It would be convenient to register the codes myself whenever I swap, which is why I like the ATEQ. I'm a MacOS/iOS guy, so as much as I like the ATEQ, I'll probably pass on it for now.
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Old 11-07-18, 08:10 PM
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I hear ya! I've been a Mac-a-holic all my life; My first Mac was the 128K and spent probably an LC worth of money on Macs over my lifespan. My friend and I enjoy breaking out our old Mac Plus and SE to relive the good old days, playing favorite vintage games like head to head Strategic Conquest over Appletalk!

Back on thread topic FWIW: I saw a prior post above about Pirelli being the only winter tire option, but I also see a Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32 also available on their configurator.
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Old 11-07-18, 08:30 PM
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I hear ya! I've been a Mac-a-holic all my life; My first Mac was the 128K and spent probably an LC worth of money on Macs over my lifespan. My friend and I enjoy breaking out our old Mac Plus and SE to relive the good old days, playing favorite vintage games like head to head Strategic Conquest over Appletalk!

Back on thread topic FWIW: I saw a prior post above about Pirelli being the only winter tire option, but I also see a Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32 also available on their configurator.
I'm not sure how you configured it, but the Blizzak doesn't show up for me on TireRack - when I search by make, year, model. When looking at the Blizzak itself, it appears that it is available to fit the front size (245/45R20), but I don't see the recommended rear size (275/40R20)...

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...=Blizzak+LM-32
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I'm punching in a 2018 LC and searching for winter tire/wheel package (since I would need a winter set of rims to mount them on) and the 20" recommended size.
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I'm punching in a 2018 LC and searching for winter tire/wheel package (since I would need a winter set of rims to mount them on) and the 20" recommended size.
Hmmm... they could be altering the rim width or something. I was maintaining the factory tire sizes when I searched. I personally would only go with the factory recommended sizes - front & back.

I wasn't happy with rims I purchased from TireRack in the past. Tires yes, but the rims I got required hub-centric rings, and the Lexus factory lugs wouldn't fit. They may or may not accept factory TPMS as well. Just do your homework. You can also check eBay for a set of Lexus OEM 20" rims too. There are typically 1 or 2 sets listed whenever I look. If you haven't bought the car yet, you can try to get them to cut you a deal on a set of extra rims - depending on how much profit you've left them in your negotiations.
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Interesting. I've used TireRack exclusively on all my many vehicles over the years, buying winter rims and TPMS sensors and all kinds of tires without any issues, including the winter package that was on my GX where I used the ATEQ. I also had a winter package set on the CT200. I've even been to their massive facility in South Bend, IN and had tires mounted on my S2000 back in the day; very impressive facility. If you got rims through them, they should have come with the required bolts; the Lexus factory bolts certainly were not compatible with the aftermarket rims I've purchased through them, which used conical bolts vs the OEM mag type.
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Originally Posted by uchujin View Post
but the rims I got required hub-centric rings, and the Lexus factory lugs wouldn't fit.
Most aftermarket wheels require hub-centric rings and cone shaped lug nuts. The lexus OEM lug nuts are special. I am a fan of stock wheels for many reasons. I am running RCF wheels on my ISF.

I usually like to stay away from eBay, but they are a good source for OEM wheels:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-GNUINE-LEXUS-LC500-21-INCH-WHEELS-TIRES-OEM-FACTORY-FORGED-21-LC-500-RARE/173361187500?hash=item285d21caac:g:hloAAOSwQQBbHsTk:rk:3f:0
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Old 11-08-18, 05:56 AM
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Why not search for a set of wheels on Ebay that are takeoffs that someone didn't want, or ask your dealer if they have a set someone took off their car.
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Old 11-08-18, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HiroY View Post
Interesting. I've used TireRack exclusively on all my many vehicles over the years, buying winter rims and TPMS sensors and all kinds of tires without any issues, including the winter package that was on my GX where I used the ATEQ. I also had a winter package set on the CT200. I've even been to their massive facility in South Bend, IN and had tires mounted on my S2000 back in the day; very impressive facility. If you got rims through them, they should have come with the required bolts; the Lexus factory bolts certainly were not compatible with the aftermarket rims I've purchased through them, which used conical bolts vs the OEM mag type.
Yeah, sorry for the confusion. I didn't elaborate too much... Yes, TireRack does a great job with wheel/tire setups. I too received the correct hub-centric rings and conical lugs with the winter setup I bought a few years ago for my RX400h. If you're used to having 2 different sets of hardware and don't mind keeping an eye on the hub rings, you'll be fine I'm sure.

For me though, there were several negative things that bothered me...
  • The lug-cutout holes in the rims were too narrow for my impact socket to fit. They seem to be sized for spline lugs, which are popular in this market.
  • I didn't like having to use the lug adapter tool - just another thing to keep track of. And I don't think it would survive well if I used an impact wrench on it.
  • Hub centric rings would sometimes fall out when changing the wheels - another nuisance to deal with.
So... after that experience, I did exactly what others have suggested - I bought factory rims on eBay that other owners didn't want. They're usually taken off the sellers' cars while still new and typically in perfect condition (although I really wouldn't care about cosmetic issues for winter-only driving). It's sooo nice to be able to use the same lugs on both sets of wheels. I'm a fan of the mag-style lugs. I like that they have more surface-contact area, and I like their chunky look. Factory rims are also approved for the torque and lateral forces for the vehicle. TireRack has excellent test reviews on their tires, but when I asked about specific vehicle force testing for rims, they just told me "they've never had a problem". Since most rims are over-engineered, this probably isn't an issue, but the factory rims give me peace of mind. Of course - I would have this same peace of mind with a set of forged Vossens (or other high-end custom wheels), but who wants to spend $10K on a set of winter wheels?

Anyway, this is all just my preference after trying both routes. It's really nice having both sets of rims be OEM and use the same hardware. And, when you bring the car in for service, the mechanics can use their standard impact tools and sockets, which they prefer. If they scratch a factory wheel, they can replace it. If they damage an aftermarket wheel, I don't know? Good luck? Another thing to keep in mind is - the lug bolts on the LC are larger than other Lexus/Toyota vehicles I've owned (I'm not sure if the GX or LX have the same bigger bolts). The ones on the LC require higher torque. My other Lex/Toy vehicles torque at 76 ft-lbs. The ones on the LC torque at 103 ft-lbs. Just something to keep in mind. Whatever you decide - best of luck!

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^^^^Just me, but I would never use an impact wrench on my wheels! As well as the lug nuts being larger, the bolt circle is also larger. I'm not sure about the hub bore.

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^^^^Just me, but I would never use an impact wrench on my wheels! As well as the lug nuts being larger, the bolt circle is also larger. I'm not sure about the hub bore.

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I never need one on my LC since I never even use it in the rain - so the lugs always come off easily by hand. I use an impact wrench all the time to REMOVE lugs on my other Lexus and Toyota vehicles (as does every dealership and wheel shop). It's actually safer than forcing the lugs off without the impact effect. The impact helps break loose any frozen lugs without overly forcing them and potentially breaking or stripping a stud. I use a DeWalt battery-cordless wrench (rather than pneumatic) which has less force than pneumatic so the impact is doing most of the work. It does no damage whatsoever to the lugs or wheels. Of course, one should NEVER use an impact wrench to INSTALL lug nuts. Always hand tighten with a properly calibrated torque wrench.

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