Dealer just replaced my brake pads and it's made a world of difference
#16
Thanks for the disappointing info. At least there is a fix. I called my dealer today and added brake pads to the app't. to get my exhaust done next week. I guess I will find out then whether they have any pads or not but sounds like they won't have them . As I mentioned earlier I have always backed up while applying the brakes lightly and that stopped it for awhile.
BTW - I think it's possible some dealerships may have stock on these. From what I understand, there are currently none available for dealers to acquire. But some dealers may already have some on hand. No big deal - we've been living with this for a while. A little longer won't matter much. Supply will eventually catch up to demand.
Oh, and my rep told me we can't keep the original pads. Dealers are supposedly required to return them to Toyota.
Last edited by uchujin; 08-01-18 at 05:59 AM.
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While my brakes have squealed only a couple of times after the car sat for a couple of days I appreciated the info. on replacement. As I had a dealer appt. to have a TOMS exhaust installed I had them order the new pads. I drove 240 miles at high speeds in intermittent rain to the dealer which was near my office. The car was amazing. Just returned back to my summer home today. My daily driver is an S7 and the LC is more comfortable,and more fun to drive with a better stereo.Easily spent 4 hours in it with one stop. With regard to the brakes . They did not make a sound during the whole three day 600 mile trip. If they don't do it more than occasionally I don't think I will change them as the brakes are very impressive when you drive aggressively like I do. They are much better than my Porsche, S7 or XKRS. My experience is that if the car sits and/or the brakes aren't used hard as they are intended they will squeak. Same issue I have had with some other performance cars. I must mention that I am very pleased with the TOMS exhaust. A little louder, no drone and the blue tips look amazing on my Atomic Silver car.
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signdetres (06-25-19)
#19
My brakes squealed a couple of times. I think after the car sat a couple of days. My dealer ordered the new pads but the brakes have never squealed since. I assume they won't squeak anymore, unless perhaps from sitting. I will keep the current pads as I think they are great and wouldn't want anything less. I put 1k miles on the car since they squeaked.
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Thought I'd finally get around to posting my assessment on the TSB brake pad replacement...
- Squeal/Noise
Gone! Completely gone. Grade: A+! - Dust
Almost non-existent. To give you an idea, I used to wear latex gloves and a clean microfiber rag to wipe down the wheels after every drive. I had to wear the gloves to keep my hands from turning black. When I was finished, I always trashed the rag because it was completely black - front and back. After the pad replacement, the rag typically has almost no black on it at all! This is a HUGE difference! Grade: A+! - Performance
I knew there would be some sacrifice here. The stock pads were exceptionally fantastic. They stopped the car like they were super-magnets. The only down-side with the performance of the stock pads was - when moving at a slow speeds, they were sometimes a bit too "sticky" - stopping the car kind-of abruptly. But they were really impressive overall. The new pads aren't in the same league IMO. They work adequately, but nothing like the impressive gripping power of the stock pads. If I didn't ever experience the power of the stock pads, I would probably just think these new pads are normal. They perform fine, but they're not what I would call impressive. They brake like an ordinary car now, instead of like a high-end performer. I'm wondering if the performance might improve a bit after bedding the rotors a little more over time(?) Grade: B or C. - The Verdict
Worth the performance trade-off, IMO. I suspect with time, I'll forget how fantastic the stock pads worked. I'll likely down-shift a lot anyway. On the plus side, it's SOOO nice seeing my wheels still shine after driving it! No more coating of black dust all over them after every drive! Also, no more cringing every time I brake - waiting for the squeal to happen. Basically - they do exactly what the TSB said they would do. So I'm happy with them - overall.
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signdetres (06-25-19)
#23
My dealers just call to inform me mine is in
No more sounding like a train pulling into a station every time I approach a light. But an even bigger benefit is the drastic reduction in brake dust.
FYI, complained to service rep about annoying screeching noise every time braking, they replicated it, and offered to replace the pads w/ the caveat of sacrificing some performance. My car had about 3k miles, and service center was Longo Lexus in southern california.
FYI, complained to service rep about annoying screeching noise every time braking, they replicated it, and offered to replace the pads w/ the caveat of sacrificing some performance. My car had about 3k miles, and service center was Longo Lexus in southern california.
#24
Can't say I would be excited for diminished braking power, my Porsche has carbon ceramic brakes. The brakes were under engineered on the LC 500 in my opinion.
Just the dust alone was unbearable.
Just the dust alone was unbearable.
#25
I wish I knew what materials the TSB pads are composed of. My Lexus mechanic suspected ceramic - but that's just an educated guess. TSB just states "alternative material". It certainly would be helpful to know - especially since other aftermarket options may be worth considering.
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uchujin (10-21-18)
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I just got my braking pads replaced at the dealer (TSB). So far no more noise. I do not notice any significant performance difference unless I floor the car. When I floor the car, then brake, I can feel TSB pads are softer. Generally I am very happy about those new pads.
One thing tho, my service guy told me TSB pads may cause more brake dust. I am not sure if he knows how much dust OEM pads can produce. I haven't driven long enough to tell the difference. Based on your guys above, I thought TSB produces much less brake dust? Hmm, I guess we will see.
One thing tho, my service guy told me TSB pads may cause more brake dust. I am not sure if he knows how much dust OEM pads can produce. I haven't driven long enough to tell the difference. Based on your guys above, I thought TSB produces much less brake dust? Hmm, I guess we will see.
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I just got my braking pads replaced at the dealer (TSB). So far no more noise. I do not notice any significant performance difference unless I floor the car. When I floor the car, then brake, I can feel TSB pads are softer. Generally I am very happy about those new pads.
One thing tho, my service guy told me TSB pads may cause more brake dust. I am not sure if he knows how much dust OEM pads can produce. I haven't driven long enough to tell the difference. Based on your guys above, I thought TSB produces much less brake dust? Hmm, I guess we will see.
One thing tho, my service guy told me TSB pads may cause more brake dust. I am not sure if he knows how much dust OEM pads can produce. I haven't driven long enough to tell the difference. Based on your guys above, I thought TSB produces much less brake dust? Hmm, I guess we will see.
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