Ride smoothness with the 21" wheels?
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Ride smoothness with the 21" wheels?
I was hoping to find an LC 500 in my color combo (Infrared/Toasted Caramel) with 20" wheels but there are NONE anywhere close to me (Southeastern PA.) I have driven one with the 20" wheels and Touring Package but not one with the 21" and Performance Package.
My dealer does not have one with the 21" wheels. I don't want to go to another dealer and take up their time on a test drive when most likely I would not be buying from them. I've been told ordering one would take 3-4 months.
My dealer may be able to acquire one with my color combo but it will have the Performance Package and 21" wheels. If they do, I may be pulling the trigger on it this Monday.
Virtually all of the video reviews with the 21" wheels mention how surprisingly "comfortable" the ride is in "comfort" mode but they are riding around on decent road surfaces. There is ONE, however, with a seemingly credible in-depth review saying "...on broken and choppy pavement...it's a choppy ride...with the 21" wheels and low-profile tires."
"Ride comfort" is a subjective topic, but for my 69 year old bones, the car with 20" wheels I drove was good. I'm not expecting an LC 500 to ride like an LS, but for those with the 21" wheels, how would you rate the ride on "broken and choppy pavement," which there is unfortunately PLENTY of in "The Land of Crappy Roads," PENNSYLVANIA?
I had 18" wheels on a 2004 Maxima SE and that suspension was TERRIBLE for almost everything. I got aftermarket 17" wheels in hopes of smoothing it out, but that 1" hardly made any difference at all.
Any input would be appreciated.
My dealer does not have one with the 21" wheels. I don't want to go to another dealer and take up their time on a test drive when most likely I would not be buying from them. I've been told ordering one would take 3-4 months.
My dealer may be able to acquire one with my color combo but it will have the Performance Package and 21" wheels. If they do, I may be pulling the trigger on it this Monday.
Virtually all of the video reviews with the 21" wheels mention how surprisingly "comfortable" the ride is in "comfort" mode but they are riding around on decent road surfaces. There is ONE, however, with a seemingly credible in-depth review saying "...on broken and choppy pavement...it's a choppy ride...with the 21" wheels and low-profile tires."
"Ride comfort" is a subjective topic, but for my 69 year old bones, the car with 20" wheels I drove was good. I'm not expecting an LC 500 to ride like an LS, but for those with the 21" wheels, how would you rate the ride on "broken and choppy pavement," which there is unfortunately PLENTY of in "The Land of Crappy Roads," PENNSYLVANIA?
I had 18" wheels on a 2004 Maxima SE and that suspension was TERRIBLE for almost everything. I got aftermarket 17" wheels in hopes of smoothing it out, but that 1" hardly made any difference at all.
Any input would be appreciated.
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RichKeagy (03-25-18)
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I have the OEM 21" wheel package. The ride quality has been very good even with crap TX roads and construction zones.
A main issue for me has been over inflation. The car was delivered with over 45 PSI and the service dept loves to pump the sheet out of them also. Part of my routine is to deflate tires after service visits. This was a similar problem I had at Porsche with the 991. This produces terrible ride quality.
The spec is 33 PSI and I usually run at 32. This helps ride comfort significantly and doesn't seem to have much effect on MPG.
PS: The TPMS system is very accurate based on my use of a Longacre analog tire gauge.
A main issue for me has been over inflation. The car was delivered with over 45 PSI and the service dept loves to pump the sheet out of them also. Part of my routine is to deflate tires after service visits. This was a similar problem I had at Porsche with the 991. This produces terrible ride quality.
The spec is 33 PSI and I usually run at 32. This helps ride comfort significantly and doesn't seem to have much effect on MPG.
PS: The TPMS system is very accurate based on my use of a Longacre analog tire gauge.
#3
I have had 20’s with non-RFT tires during the winter and now I’m running 21's with RFT’s. The 21’s are firmer but not as much as I would have expected. Also, I’m running 19’s on my 340i and my perception is that the LC is still smoother on 21’s (surprisingly).
While it is a firm ride (yet not bone crushingly so), it competently deals with rough roads but you’ll still have to look out for potholes and slow down for the more hardcore speed bumps. Don’t expect a Coupe DeVille type land yacht that will absorb absolutely any surface irregularities like it’s nothing.
While it is a firm ride (yet not bone crushingly so), it competently deals with rough roads but you’ll still have to look out for potholes and slow down for the more hardcore speed bumps. Don’t expect a Coupe DeVille type land yacht that will absorb absolutely any surface irregularities like it’s nothing.
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BobBass (03-24-18)
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"Ride comfort" is a subjective topic, but for my 69 year old bones, the car with 20" wheels I drove was good. I'm not expecting an LC 500 to ride like an LS, but for those with the 21" wheels, how would you rate the ride on "broken and choppy pavement," which there is unfortunately PLENTY of in "The Land of Crappy Roads," PENNSYLVANIA?.
I would be more concerned with the RFT tires when it comes to ride quality. But, you may have trouble finding a non RFT tire in those sizes. Its seems that only Pirelli makes 'em.
Lou
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Lou (flowrider),
Thanks for that detailed info.
I just sold my '09 Corvette with Z51 and it had 245/40 ZR18 in the front and 285/35 ZR19 in the rear. That translates to a tire "section height" of 3.85" front and 3.95" rear. It had the HORRIBLE Goodyear RFTs and I managed to drive it over the last seven years w/o any tire/wheel-related issues. Nailed a couple of potholes & recessed manhole covers, too.
Hopefully I'll have the same good luck with the LC.
The 21" tire specifications are 245/40 and 275/35. that means the sidewall is 3.85" tall in front and 3.75" in the back.
I just sold my '09 Corvette with Z51 and it had 245/40 ZR18 in the front and 285/35 ZR19 in the rear. That translates to a tire "section height" of 3.85" front and 3.95" rear. It had the HORRIBLE Goodyear RFTs and I managed to drive it over the last seven years w/o any tire/wheel-related issues. Nailed a couple of potholes & recessed manhole covers, too.
Hopefully I'll have the same good luck with the LC.
#7
Driver School Candidate
Many might think I was crazy, but had the dealer change my 21 to 20s on my new LC at no charge and then they asked a premium for the other car that came with 20 and now has the 21s. 21s are fine as most indicated but liked the look of the 10 spoke 20s and there is more sidewall!
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#8
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TCB1977,
HA! We did the same thing with the OEM wheels on our '14 Nissan Murano Platinum Edition. I didn't care for the 7-spoke design on the top-of-the-line package and asked to swap them out for LE wheels on one in their inventory which are more traditional 5-spoke and look great.
It's cool that all three wheels offered o the LC 500 are pretty nice and you can't go wrong with either of the upgrades:
HA! We did the same thing with the OEM wheels on our '14 Nissan Murano Platinum Edition. I didn't care for the 7-spoke design on the top-of-the-line package and asked to swap them out for LE wheels on one in their inventory which are more traditional 5-spoke and look great.
It's cool that all three wheels offered o the LC 500 are pretty nice and you can't go wrong with either of the upgrades:
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randomwalk,
That's EXACTLY the one to which I was referring. He seems pretty sincere, so I'm hoping that his perception of the ride isn't spot on. Once again, it's a subjective topic.
That's an interesting review. Gotta luv the detailed underside view and discussion of the chassis. How many times have you seen something like that on a vehicle you're reserching? Really cool to see the LSD and rear-steering components. And, under the hood, how Lexus manages to route the actual sound of the V8 into the passenger compartment. I've watched it twice.
That's EXACTLY the one to which I was referring. He seems pretty sincere, so I'm hoping that his perception of the ride isn't spot on. Once again, it's a subjective topic.
That's an interesting review. Gotta luv the detailed underside view and discussion of the chassis. How many times have you seen something like that on a vehicle you're reserching? Really cool to see the LSD and rear-steering components. And, under the hood, how Lexus manages to route the actual sound of the V8 into the passenger compartment. I've watched it twice.
#11
I was hoping to find an LC 500 in my color combo (Infrared/Toasted Caramel) with 20" wheels but there are NONE anywhere close to me (Southeastern PA.) I have driven one with the 20" wheels and Touring Package but not one with the 21" and Performance Package.
My dealer does not have one with the 21" wheels. I don't want to go to another dealer and take up their time on a test drive when most likely I would not be buying from them. I've been told ordering one would take 3-4 months.
My dealer may be able to acquire one with my color combo but it will have the Performance Package and 21" wheels. If they do, I may be pulling the trigger on it this Monday.
Virtually all of the video reviews with the 21" wheels mention how surprisingly "comfortable" the ride is in "comfort" mode but they are riding around on decent road surfaces. There is ONE, however, with a seemingly credible in-depth review saying "...on broken and choppy pavement...it's a choppy ride...with the 21" wheels and low-profile tires."
"Ride comfort" is a subjective topic, but for my 69 year old bones, the car with 20" wheels I drove was good. I'm not expecting an LC 500 to ride like an LS, but for those with the 21" wheels, how would you rate the ride on "broken and choppy pavement," which there is unfortunately PLENTY of in "The Land of Crappy Roads," PENNSYLVANIA?
I had 18" wheels on a 2004 Maxima SE and that suspension was TERRIBLE for almost everything. I got aftermarket 17" wheels in hopes of smoothing it out, but that 1" hardly made any difference at all.
Any input would be appreciated.
My dealer does not have one with the 21" wheels. I don't want to go to another dealer and take up their time on a test drive when most likely I would not be buying from them. I've been told ordering one would take 3-4 months.
My dealer may be able to acquire one with my color combo but it will have the Performance Package and 21" wheels. If they do, I may be pulling the trigger on it this Monday.
Virtually all of the video reviews with the 21" wheels mention how surprisingly "comfortable" the ride is in "comfort" mode but they are riding around on decent road surfaces. There is ONE, however, with a seemingly credible in-depth review saying "...on broken and choppy pavement...it's a choppy ride...with the 21" wheels and low-profile tires."
"Ride comfort" is a subjective topic, but for my 69 year old bones, the car with 20" wheels I drove was good. I'm not expecting an LC 500 to ride like an LS, but for those with the 21" wheels, how would you rate the ride on "broken and choppy pavement," which there is unfortunately PLENTY of in "The Land of Crappy Roads," PENNSYLVANIA?
I had 18" wheels on a 2004 Maxima SE and that suspension was TERRIBLE for almost everything. I got aftermarket 17" wheels in hopes of smoothing it out, but that 1" hardly made any difference at all.
Any input would be appreciated.
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BobBass (03-27-18)
#12
I can't complain about the ride quality with the 21" wheels. I've been in other cars with wheels that size and it was not a pleasant experience on rough roads!
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I have the OEM 21" wheel package. The ride quality has been very good even with crap TX roads and construction zones.
A main issue for me has been over inflation. The car was delivered with over 45 PSI and the service dept loves to pump the sheet out of them also. Part of my routine is to deflate tires after service visits. This was a similar problem I had at Porsche with the 991. This produces terrible ride quality.
The spec is 33 PSI and I usually run at 32. This helps ride comfort significantly and doesn't seem to have much effect on MPG.
PS: The TPMS system is very accurate based on my use of a Longacre analog tire gauge.
A main issue for me has been over inflation. The car was delivered with over 45 PSI and the service dept loves to pump the sheet out of them also. Part of my routine is to deflate tires after service visits. This was a similar problem I had at Porsche with the 991. This produces terrible ride quality.
The spec is 33 PSI and I usually run at 32. This helps ride comfort significantly and doesn't seem to have much effect on MPG.
PS: The TPMS system is very accurate based on my use of a Longacre analog tire gauge.
#14
Cars shipped from Japan typically have the tires overinflated for the trip across the pond. I've seen cars come off the ship with as much as 50-60 psi. This is to reduce flat spots on the tires as the vehicles are chained to the floor under tension during transport. Dealers don't always check and correct the pressure. And even if they do, they often add an extra 5-10 psi to reduce the number of calls they get on those freezing mornings - when the low-pressure light comes on. If you live and drive in a warm climate, the recommendations on the driver's door jamb should provide the best ride and wear results. If you park outside in freezing temps, you'll need to add an extra 5 or so psi.
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Thanks for all the input. It has become a moot point because today I put money down on a LOADED LC 500.
Picking it up Monday and I'll experience the ride on the way back home. The next four days are gonna be TORTURE. We're going away this weekend and I just couldn't work the delivery in before then.
First time I've entered this "level" of vehicle. Hey...you only go around once.
Picking it up Monday and I'll experience the ride on the way back home. The next four days are gonna be TORTURE. We're going away this weekend and I just couldn't work the delivery in before then.
First time I've entered this "level" of vehicle. Hey...you only go around once.