Lets Play Guess the 0 to 60
05-12-17, 05:35 AM
#31
You bring up a very interesting and valid point. I don’t read it the same way that you do, but I appreciate that you could be correct. I would be astonished that an outfit such as MT would not have tried and tested the other drive modes. When I read that portion of the paragraph and tried to come to some reasoning why they would have achieved a better time using ‘Normal’ mode. I was wondering if the shift points were less aggressive in ‘Normal’ mode thusly allowing the RPMs to drop further down and into more of a ‘sweet spot’ vs the other modes. Maybe, manual shifting and Sport/Sport+ modes overshoot the peak TQ/HP curve combo that is best for acceleration given their testing parameters (temp, traction, weight…).
05-17-17, 04:07 PM
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With even more ‘reviews’ (I used quotes as some of the write-ups are hardly at the level I would consider an honest review) coming in, there seems to be a very pronounced thread materializing. Which at its roots is that the LC is a beautiful luxury car that does not live up to its $100K price tag when it comes to performance even for a GT car. While I agree this can be debated for days with no clear or decisive winner. I just find it unfortunate that the LC’s performance was not fully realized with the plethora of gearing options granted by the new 10 speed. I hope the rumors around the LCF are not just rumors.
05-18-17, 05:02 PM
#34
With even more ‘reviews’ (I used quotes as some of the write-ups are hardly at the level I would consider an honest review) coming in, there seems to be a very pronounced thread materializing. Which at its roots is that the LC is a beautiful luxury car that does not live up to its $100K price tag when it comes to performance even for a GT car. While I agree this can be debated for days with no clear or decisive winner. I just find it unfortunate that the LC’s performance was not fully realized with the plethora of gearing options granted by the new 10 speed. I hope the rumors around the LCF are not just rumors.
05-18-17, 08:38 PM
#35
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-spend-100-000
https://www.cars.com/reviews/2018-le...1420695302013/
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus...t-test-review/
If the LC 500’s engine makes 471 peak horsepower at 7,100 rpm, has a reported 168-mph (electronically limited at the top of 5th gear) top-speed and ten (!) gears, one would hope/guess that those cogs’ ratios would be set rather close to one another to keep the engine on the boil—or at least first through fifth would be short, leaving sixth through 10th with mind-numbing fuel-sipping overdrive ratios. Part of this is true: seventh gear is 1:1, and gears eight-10 are indeed overdrive, but a tall (numerically small) 2.94:1 rear-differential ratio, conspire to take the kick out of what is potentially a spicy recipe. Even accelerating at wide-open throttle, gears one through four linger and pull for an inordinate amount of time. It sounds great, and there’s a definite surge of power as the tachometer sweeps over the 4,000 mark on its way to peak torque output at 4,800 rpm. So why not upshift into that sweet spot every time? Instead, redline upshifts into gears three-five occur downslope of the engine’s torque curve thereby missing out on the surge of torque.
https://www.cars.com/reviews/2018-le...1420695302013/
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus...t-test-review/
If the LC 500’s engine makes 471 peak horsepower at 7,100 rpm, has a reported 168-mph (electronically limited at the top of 5th gear) top-speed and ten (!) gears, one would hope/guess that those cogs’ ratios would be set rather close to one another to keep the engine on the boil—or at least first through fifth would be short, leaving sixth through 10th with mind-numbing fuel-sipping overdrive ratios. Part of this is true: seventh gear is 1:1, and gears eight-10 are indeed overdrive, but a tall (numerically small) 2.94:1 rear-differential ratio, conspire to take the kick out of what is potentially a spicy recipe. Even accelerating at wide-open throttle, gears one through four linger and pull for an inordinate amount of time. It sounds great, and there’s a definite surge of power as the tachometer sweeps over the 4,000 mark on its way to peak torque output at 4,800 rpm. So why not upshift into that sweet spot every time? Instead, redline upshifts into gears three-five occur downslope of the engine’s torque curve thereby missing out on the surge of torque.
Last edited by missedapex; 05-18-17 at 09:08 PM.
05-19-17, 12:18 PM
#36
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-spend-100-000
https://www.cars.com/reviews/2018-le...1420695302013/
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus...t-test-review/
If the LC 500’s engine makes 471 peak horsepower at 7,100 rpm, has a reported 168-mph (electronically limited at the top of 5th gear) top-speed and ten (!) gears, one would hope/guess that those cogs’ ratios would be set rather close to one another to keep the engine on the boil—or at least first through fifth would be short, leaving sixth through 10th with mind-numbing fuel-sipping overdrive ratios. Part of this is true: seventh gear is 1:1, and gears eight-10 are indeed overdrive, but a tall (numerically small) 2.94:1 rear-differential ratio, conspire to take the kick out of what is potentially a spicy recipe. Even accelerating at wide-open throttle, gears one through four linger and pull for an inordinate amount of time. It sounds great, and there’s a definite surge of power as the tachometer sweeps over the 4,000 mark on its way to peak torque output at 4,800 rpm. So why not upshift into that sweet spot every time? Instead, redline upshifts into gears three-five occur downslope of the engine’s torque curve thereby missing out on the surge of torque.
https://www.cars.com/reviews/2018-le...1420695302013/
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus...t-test-review/
If the LC 500’s engine makes 471 peak horsepower at 7,100 rpm, has a reported 168-mph (electronically limited at the top of 5th gear) top-speed and ten (!) gears, one would hope/guess that those cogs’ ratios would be set rather close to one another to keep the engine on the boil—or at least first through fifth would be short, leaving sixth through 10th with mind-numbing fuel-sipping overdrive ratios. Part of this is true: seventh gear is 1:1, and gears eight-10 are indeed overdrive, but a tall (numerically small) 2.94:1 rear-differential ratio, conspire to take the kick out of what is potentially a spicy recipe. Even accelerating at wide-open throttle, gears one through four linger and pull for an inordinate amount of time. It sounds great, and there’s a definite surge of power as the tachometer sweeps over the 4,000 mark on its way to peak torque output at 4,800 rpm. So why not upshift into that sweet spot every time? Instead, redline upshifts into gears three-five occur downslope of the engine’s torque curve thereby missing out on the surge of torque.
As my local dealer told me, the performance of LC is enough for a Lexus driver. And they don't expect to sell very many of them since you have lots of alternatives at the price 100k.
05-19-17, 04:36 PM
#37
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Because it is not defined as a performance car. It's a car to attract eyeballs and offer a smooth ride.
As my local dealer told me, the performance of LC is enough for a Lexus driver. And they don't expect to sell very many of them since you have lots of alternatives at the price 100k.
As my local dealer told me, the performance of LC is enough for a Lexus driver. And they don't expect to sell very many of them since you have lots of alternatives at the price 100k.
05-27-17, 07:13 PM
#38
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Well I just got back from a test drive and I will admit that the car does have some get up and go. It does not pull as hard as I had wished but it fees plenty quick enough after 20mph'ish. The back seats are a joke, my 14 year daughter could not sit behind my seat and had to sit behind the sales person on the passenger side. Net net, I put a deposit down for the next one that comes in with the performance package.
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