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My biggest gripe about this whole situation is simple, LEXUS should advise clients while they are sitting in the financial offices before signing the paperwork, that this car can / might have brake issues. There are plenty reports of customers with LC 500's, reporting the same issues. Yes, high performance vehicles do have these same issues, but this isn't really a high performance car. Its a GT, its a heavy coupe, that quite frankly is an amazing vehicle. But unfortunately the brakes can be terrible. I know that I wouldn't have purchased the vehicle, if I was told there could be these issues. I am happy that I got rid of my LC 500, even tho I do miss the beautiful design. The whole point of my initial post, was to bring awareness, and warn those future clients what they are getting themselves into. I highly doubt anyone will want to pay $1400+ a month for a car that starts giving brake noise issues only after 1500 miles. I have seen some people claim it started doing it earlier. It only got worse the more I drove it, and the more lexus tried fixing it. My LC 500 had 7400 miles when I traded it in.
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"I purchased a new LC 500 a few weeks ago for spring delivery. The sales contract had a spot for remarks and typed in there was " high performance brakes will make a loud squeal which is normal".
If their sales contract says that it may be because they have had issues. I also have a 911 which has 45,000 miles on it with no squeals"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------If their sales contract says that it may be because they have had issues. I also have a 911 which has 45,000 miles on it with no squeals"
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My biggest gripe about this whole situation is simple, LEXUS should advise clients while they are sitting in the financial offices before signing the paperwork, that this car can / might have brake issues. There are plenty reports of customers with LC 500's, reporting the same issues. Yes, high performance vehicles do have these same issues, but this isn't really a high performance car. Its a GT, its a heavy coupe, that quite frankly is an amazing vehicle. But unfortunately the brakes can be terrible. I know that I wouldn't have purchased the vehicle, if I was told there could be these issues. I am happy that I got rid of my LC 500, even tho I do miss the beautiful design. The whole point of my initial post, was to bring awareness, and warn those future clients what they are getting themselves into. I highly doubt anyone will want to pay $1400+ a month for a car that starts giving brake noise issues only after 1500 miles. I have seen some people claim it started doing it earlier. It only got worse the more I drove it, and the more lexus tried fixing it. My LC 500 had 7400 miles when I traded it in.
And so far, still - Only ONE member here, VicAndRay has bedded in his brakes, and it worked for him. I'm simply amazed no one else has
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/lc-...literally.html
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And so far, still - Only ONE member here, VicAndRay has bedded in his brakes, and it worked for him. I'm simply amazed no one else has
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/lc-...literally.html
Lou
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You mean this?:
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https://www.clublexus.com/forums/lc-...l#post10084118
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"I purchased a new LC 500 a few weeks ago for spring delivery. The sales contract had a spot for remarks and typed in there was " high performance brakes will make a loud squeal which is normal".
If their sales contract says that it may be because they have had issues. I also have a 911 which has 45,000 miles on it with no squeals"
If their sales contract says that it may be because they have had issues. I also have a 911 which has 45,000 miles on it with no squeals"
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Guess you haven't sorted through the site sponsors yet. Figs is one of the good guys
And the brake "issue" was common with some drivers of all the F cars (ISF, RCF, GSF) the "fix" if you want to call it that, was to put on less aggressive, lower dusting, and much less noisy pad. My solution on my ISF was more aggressive aftermarket (Ferodo & Project Mu) pads.
Most folks who go with the Less aggressive pad are unhappy with the choice, though some are happy.
Here's a recent thread from the GSF Forum:
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And the brake "issue" was common with some drivers of all the F cars (ISF, RCF, GSF) the "fix" if you want to call it that, was to put on less aggressive, lower dusting, and much less noisy pad. My solution on my ISF was more aggressive aftermarket (Ferodo & Project Mu) pads.
Most folks who go with the Less aggressive pad are unhappy with the choice, though some are happy.
Here's a recent thread from the GSF Forum:
chеapаutoinsurаnce.сom
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And so far, still - Only ONE member here, VicAndRay has bedded in his brakes, and it worked for him. I'm simply amazed no one else has
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/lc-...literally.html
Lou
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Lou
^^^^You are VERY wrong on both counts! I have years of experience saying that it certainly does work and does NOT lead to premature brake wear! And, if you are to be believed, why do brake pad manufacturers and experts recommend it?
http://brakeperformance.com/bedding-in-rotors.php
I have been driving for a lot of years, and with the advent of disc brakes and calipers ever the years, bedding has become de rigueur. You have challenged me in the past. You are free to believe what you choose to believe, but you are bucking the industry and your opinion is simply wrong.
Lou
http://brakeperformance.com/bedding-in-rotors.php
I have been driving for a lot of years, and with the advent of disc brakes and calipers ever the years, bedding has become de rigueur. You have challenged me in the past. You are free to believe what you choose to believe, but you are bucking the industry and your opinion is simply wrong.
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^^^^You are VERY wrong on both counts! I have years of experience saying that it certainly does work and does NOT lead to premature brake wear! And, if you are to be believed, why do brake pad manufacturers and experts recommend it?
http://brakeperformance.com/bedding-in-rotors.php
I have been driving for a lot of years, and with the advent of disc brakes and calipers ever the years, bedding has become de rigueur. You have challenged me in the past. You are free to believe what you choose to believe, but you are bucking the industry and your opinion is simply wrong.
Lou
http://brakeperformance.com/bedding-in-rotors.php
I have been driving for a lot of years, and with the advent of disc brakes and calipers ever the years, bedding has become de rigueur. You have challenged me in the past. You are free to believe what you choose to believe, but you are bucking the industry and your opinion is simply wrong.
Lou
McLaren has gone the route of a TSB installing mass dampers, but that has it's own issues.
Wow, brake pad manufactures want you to brake more often and harder, who would have thought?!?
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^^^^You are VERY wrong on both counts! I have years of experience saying that it certainly does work and does NOT lead to premature brake wear! And, if you are to be believed, why do brake pad manufacturers and experts recommend it?
http://brakeperformance.com/bedding-in-rotors.php
I have been driving for a lot of years, and with the advent of disc brakes and calipers ever the years, bedding has become de rigueur. You have challenged me in the past. You are free to believe what you choose to believe, but you are bucking the industry and your opinion is simply wrong.
Lou
http://brakeperformance.com/bedding-in-rotors.php
I have been driving for a lot of years, and with the advent of disc brakes and calipers ever the years, bedding has become de rigueur. You have challenged me in the past. You are free to believe what you choose to believe, but you are bucking the industry and your opinion is simply wrong.
Lou
^^^^Hmm, I've done this on my ISF Twice, my old pads and my Ferodos and on my last G35 when I changed pads. It's never failed me. You sure you heated them up enough? Each time, when I finished, my brakes were smokin' and smellin!
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If you think MB E63S is comparable to LC500, you may wonder what brake is favored by E63 owners.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-556miles.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-556miles.html
Gents,
At 216.6K I can tell you the brake dust is less than stock but not as low as some focusing on that. Pretty much matches the rears now. No noticeable fade on spirited mountain driving. Very good brake feel. I wish I could report how it does on the track, but I will update,
Oh yes, no squeal and no problems in the cold. Where 25F is about as cold as they would get.
Best part is I kept my floating rotors for a fraction of the price now that I only change the iron disk!
At 216.6K I can tell you the brake dust is less than stock but not as low as some focusing on that. Pretty much matches the rears now. No noticeable fade on spirited mountain driving. Very good brake feel. I wish I could report how it does on the track, but I will update,
Oh yes, no squeal and no problems in the cold. Where 25F is about as cold as they would get.
Best part is I kept my floating rotors for a fraction of the price now that I only change the iron disk!
Last edited by RacingBrake; Feb 22, 2018 at 12:17 PM.
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I just feel like you're acting like a brat. Bedding is common knowledge, I have always done it every time I change my own pads. Yes, it should already be done on a newly delivered car sure, but after that are you really going to trust somebody else to go out in your car and do it, and where's the hassle exactly? Oh no, you get to go out for 10 or 20 minutes once every pad change and drive this incredible machine even more? The horror! Why, you'll have to wipe your schedule for the next month to accomplish such a feat! You feel faint at the suggestion, such is the inconvenience! Where's that hyperventilation bag?