For an 08 depending on mileage, i would say 18-22k, anything more and you can get a higher year F

 

Man, I just noticed your sig clearly states which model year you have... my bad haha!

 

This and this. People don’t spend big bucks on 08-09 because for that you can get a better better model with much needed suspension and differential upgrades. 08-09 will sell in the teens to high twenties if clean and low mileage. If your paying 30 or above, it should be for a middle-newer model. Only low mileage no accident 13-14 cars should sell in the 40s.

Our cars will only appreciate if better replacements don’t come out. So far the GSF and RCF failed to really replace the ISF. If the new rumored ISF is good, our values will probably stop appreciating. If it is a much better performer and still reliable, our cars will depreciate some. It’s just basic economics. Old supras appreciated because they were never replaced with a better or similar model.

 

The price is very heavily driven by regional availability.

In 2013, when I was shopping for a 2011 + ISF in NJ - there were literally 2 available for sale (within 200 mile radius) over a 3 month period. So, although the ISF is not rare on a nationwide basis, I still ended up paying more than what I would have paid in another market where there were more ISFs available - like CA.

Just did a quick Autotrader search, there is exactly one 2011+ ISF within 500 miles of me for sale.

 

I bought my 2008 with 180k miles for 13k USD, all interior door panels were replaced, dash replaced, all struts, and brand new tyres!

 

ZThe price margins discussed herein are throughout America. The reality is, most of us traveled to buy ours. I rarely read of someone getting one local to them. If you want a clean ISF, chances are your willing to fly to get it and that is just an additional cost that you must pay.

i travelled about 1000 miles to get mine.

 

I agree on the GSF/RCF failing to perform better than the ISF. I do like the GSF (not really a huge fan of the RCF) but Lexus not offering performance enhancements has really hurt those cars against their competitors (technology package-wise i still think theyre more than sufficient [im also not a tech-**** needing every bit of new tech to justify a vessel used for transportation lol]).

Regarding the new ISF, if they are going the tt v6 route like what I am hearing, i dont see it depreciating 1st gen ISF's value at all. Lexus would just be following the trend with every other luxury sport model in that route (i even read it would have the same factory-rated 416hp like our ISF's LOL)

 

For what you get the car is rightly priced at $35k. You can’t buy a crate engine and put it in a similar handling car for less than $35k. It’s an incredibly good performing car for the price and in my opinion prices are at the bottom of where they will ever be

 

I sold my 2008 silver/black with 99k stock other than RRRacing tune for $23200 this weekend. In similar year/miles within 250 miles of DC I saw some as low as $16k or as high as $25k. Mine was in pretty great shape in and out, zero accidents and all records and valley plate done. I had a lot of interest and sold within 3 weeks even having to cancel 3 buyers from seeing it because buyer wanted it ASAP and had the funds.

 

I imagine they're in the realm of the e39 m5, highly doubt they'll all hold at 30k. Eventually as they age, the oldest ones will pull the younger ones down, but I could still see nice ones costing 20k+ in another decade or 2.

 

The new ISF will almost certainly be turbo. Either the Toyota sourced V6 or the bmw sourced Supra engine. I know that sounds obsurd, but my local Lexus master tech was just told that in a meeting this summer.

There will be some buyers who want the V8 and will pay for a used ISF... but a tuned turbo 6 will be faster than our NA V8s unless they get very heavy. It might even be faster stock versus a FBO v8 ISF. The Supra makes ridiculous power with just a tune.

A good V6 turbo in an ISF will hurt our values in my opinion, unless it’s a BMW engine lol.

 

Yeah i am kind of hoping they go with the BMW turbo 6. Yeah itll blow our F's away in regards to horsepower stock/tuned, but it will lose its Japanese roots. Just like the new supra is a badass car with few mods needed, but theres nothing JDM about it. What i love about the ISF is the raw v8 (even the GSF and RCF dont share that same level of "rawness"), yeah it has a huge limit on power with bolt ons/tune, but it has personality.

 

If you watch the trajectory of other cars I think we are ok. The NSX the s2000 or integra R. Nobody thought they’d be of value in time and They drop 10-15 years after production then. Start to climb again. Time has a way of weeding out the weak and I believe the ISF will prove itself well with time, which should increase its value. Especially for nice low mileage samples..... which are all ready becoming hard to find.

 

I think the NSX and S2000 are more niche cars which help them hold their value exceptionally well. The IS-F has competition in its price bracket like the M3's and even the RC-F these days--even if I do think the IS-F is a bit more "special"

 

I agree, but regrettably. I want our values to stay up, but really hope that Lexus / Toyota keep pushing the envelope with JDM motors. The Supra is great, but it is a German car with German mechanicals and German electronics. The electronics will age like all other German electronics. I am mostly on the same page as you, though.

Good points.

The ISF will still be the niche car in that it’ll be the only reliable used car from that era. Not many people want a 20 plus year old M series. I really don’t think the Type R was a niche car. It was the better car, but it competed with the SI at the time, which also held its value pretty well. Reliable, limited run Japanese sports cars have pretty much always held their value, especially the clean models. How much value, though, is the question.