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Old 12-05-18, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MileHIFcar
My opinion differs from a few here on CL, but I have the Bilstein B6/Swift combo and have zero complaints with that combination. I know it's highly subjective on how someone perceives ride quality but compared to the Swift/OEM spring combo the Bilsteins were night and day difference in ride quality compared to the Tokico shocks!! For the money/value quotient you can't beat Bilsteins in general weather or not they are paired with swift springs or not IMO....
I think the biggest difference comes down to where you live and the road conditions. For MileHIcar his experience on this setup was better due primarily to the better road conditions. When driving this setup in Westchester County on some back roads where live it was absolutely fantastic for me but driving into New York City on a daily basis not so much. Just to give you an example there are 1.8 million cars registered in the entire state of Colorado their 1.4 million cars in registered in New York City that doesn't include the other two million cars registered in Long Island and the other 650,000 registered in Westchester County its two closest Suburbs that doesn't even take into account all the cars coming in from New Jersey and Connecticut then add in all the commercial vehicles such as trucks and buses and you get the picture. My advice to anyone thinking of the Swift Bilstein B6 combo if you live in an area that has great road conditions then go for it if you live in an area with poor road conditions I advise against it. Now the B6 with OEM Springs great combo, car drives great go with 2012 OEM or later Shock also great choice. Even on coilovers if you live in an area with poor roads you have to have a very conservative drop.
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Old 12-05-18, 02:40 PM
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I can only imagine how the roads are in NYC...........so your advice makes sense on your road conditions that you encountered...........Hey how are the KWv3's treating you??
Old 12-05-18, 07:31 PM
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11 with Swift’s. I just checked and my part number is the 06 as well.

I felt they rode awesome for stock suspension and a spring combo. I just needed full adjustability with how aggressive of a wheel setup I went with so opted for the Greddys after a couple years on the Swifts.

If id of stuck with stock wheels the B6/Swift combo likely would have been just fine for a daily.
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Originally Posted by FFM
11 with Swift’s. I just checked and my part number is the 06 as well.

I felt they rode awesome for stock suspension and a spring combo. I just needed full adjustability with how aggressive of a wheel setup I went with so opted for the Greddys after a couple years on the Swifts.

If id of stuck with stock wheels the B6/Swift combo likely would have been just fine for a daily.
How do you like your Greddy's? Improvement in handling? Comfort? Both?
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Originally Posted by SC215
I'm hoping someone with a 2011 (or anybody that knows) could help me out. I'm considering Swift springs and Bilstein B6's but I'm not sure which set of springs to go with. According to Fig's website PN 4T906 is for 2008-2010's and PN 4T910 is for 2012+. 2011 is suspiciously missing. Anyone have any idea why?

http://www.shopfigs.com/v3/SWIFT-ISF-SSL
You can use 4T906 if you have a 2011. Lexus changed the suspension starting 2012 because of the feedback from customers that the suspension was too stiff for daily driving. 4T910 was re engineered by swift to accommodate the new suspension (softer) but they actually raised the spring rates to get some performance back in to the 2012 -2014. Hope that helps
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Originally Posted by SC215
How do you like your Greddy's? Improvement in handling? Comfort? Both?
Arguably the best bang for your buck coilovers at that price segment. Especially for the prices the vendors are giving out.

Much better control and feel. I don’t track this car, but beat on it pretty rigorously up in the hills and over the passes during the summer time. It’s felt very controlled having my cruise control set in triple digits through corners.

We have pretty decent roads here which helps. The only thing you will notice, among all coilovers using aftermarket upper mounts, is the road noise transfer. Sharp imperfections will be heard. Similar to when you upgrade to the RR LCA’s.
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Old 12-07-18, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ModInJapan
You can use 4T906 if you have a 2011. Lexus changed the suspension starting 2012 because of the feedback from customers that the suspension was too stiff for daily driving. 4T910 was re engineered by swift to accommodate the new suspension (softer) but they actually raised the spring rates to get some performance back in to the 2012 -2014. Hope that helps
I see the 2008-2011 Swift rates at 503/447 front and back while the 2012+ shows 542/464. I’m guessing either of these would work with the Bilsteins regardless of the year of the ISF, correct?

Out of curiosity, anyone know the stock spring rates for the various years for comparison?
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Originally Posted by MileHIFcar
I can only imagine how the roads are in NYC...........so your advice makes sense on your road conditions that you encountered...........Hey how are the KWv3's treating you??
They are an improvement over Swift/B6 combinations. They will give you a firm but more compliant ride. I still have some NVH over poor road conditions but in my case I believe that's more of a product of the RR racing LCA, and superpro bushing. Which can't be help unless these were removed. That's why I'm moving over to 18in rim and tire setup with increased side wall to help improve ride quality protect the rims from some imperfect roads and I also like the aesthetic what's thicker Tire and Wheel look on ISF.

Originally Posted by blackisF08
kw's v3 are perfect for daily driving the car if you want coilovers, tire rack has them on sale cheaper than what if found from anyone else
Before you purchase any set of coilovers or do any sort of suspension modifications be mindful of the roads that you drive on what sort of driving you like to do what are your goals an expectation of ride quality even the KWs will give you a firm ride. That's the advice I would give anyone looking to do suspension modifications to be prepared to manage your expectations and that's where typically fall. People expect certain type of ride and they get something else lol. So do your research try to find someone in your area with an isf with the suspension that you're looking to install on your car and go for a ride if possible since there are so few spread out all over this country. If not just refresh your OEM shocks and for those of you with 08,09 an10 but want to maintain more of a stock ride quality and not looking to lower there car I would go with a set of 13 and up shocks, springs, hat, bump stops. There are threads on this subject to anyone who is interested.

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Great advice. Only once in my life have I gotten a suspension perfect. It was my 2001 Acura CL Type S with Comptech lowering springs and Koni yellow adjustable shocks. The adjustability of the Konis basically allowed you to make the ride any way you wanted it and everything was stock quiet. The ride on the RR Road and tracks is great, but I’m quickly tiring of the noise and constantly wondering if something is wrong with them or not.

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That’s because Comptech was legit and Koni yellows are one of the best bang for your buck shocks available. Shame we can’t get Konis.
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Yup. That set up was flat through the corners and still very comfortable on the street. I’d be all over the yellows if we could get them.
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Weapon F, what size tires will you run on 18s? I’m going with 265/40/18 front summer tires and 285/35/18 rear drag radials. I’m considering selling all my 19s simply because of sidewall height. I like protection from road and a smooth ride. I also run stock 13 suspension for the same reasons.
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Originally Posted by Jwconeil
Weapon F, what size tires will you run on 18s? I’m going with 265/40/18 front summer tires and 285/35/18 rear drag radials. I’m considering selling all my 19s simply because of sidewall height. I like protection from road and a smooth ride. I also run stock 13 suspension for the same reasons.
265/40/18F 295/35/18R the 295 has taller side 4.06 sidewall its closer to stock height 26.13 vs 285 that has 25.85 height sidewall of 3.93.

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I chose 285 since it’s a drag radial . Need a little wrinkle in my life. Plus a 295 would rub on my new wheels. We are on the same page as far as tire height for cushion goes. I’m over short tires.
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