Why IS-F?
05-30-18, 04:49 PM
#32
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05-30-18, 05:59 PM
#33
05-31-18, 10:14 AM
#34
Yes, it is "cheap", assuming you diagnosed it before you run your front inner tires bald. Factoring in replacement tires for the front, you're looking at an additional $500 unexpected wear-and-tear expense. Labor + parts for this issue can potentially lead up to $1000 and you're saying this is cheap? Please.
You are talking about issues that affect maybe less than 1% of the cars made in existence.
1% at total units produced = 51 units. Based on the complaint thread, there are more than 51 units reporting this issue. Provide numbers to validate your claim of >1% units suffering this issue.
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spacexmase (06-03-18)
05-31-18, 10:32 AM
#35
How many on that thread actually have the valley plate issue? I never bothered counting.
05-31-18, 10:54 AM
#36
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For this segment of car, it is extremely reliable. Many cars that are 7 years old need 1000 worth of maintenance... its a 65 k car New.
I thought the valley issue was 08-09. I was looking for a 13-14 so I never read much about that.
I thought the valley issue was 08-09. I was looking for a 13-14 so I never read much about that.
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Jwconeil (05-31-18)
05-31-18, 03:45 PM
#38
Does anyone know how many members were affected by the valley plate on that thread? Was it really more than 51? 
05-31-18, 04:17 PM
#39
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06-01-18, 06:10 AM
#40
It affected up to 2012, so I don't know what "earlier models" you're referring to. Mine is 2011 and it is suffering from this issue.
Yes, it is "cheap", assuming you diagnosed it before you run your front inner tires bald. Factoring in replacement tires for the front, you're looking at an additional $500 unexpected wear-and-tear expense. Labor + parts for this issue can potentially lead up to $1000 and you're saying this is cheap? Please.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...y-plate-2.html
1% at total units produced = 51 units. Based on the complaint thread, there are more than 51 units reporting this issue. Provide numbers to validate your claim of >1% units suffering this issue.
Yes, it is "cheap", assuming you diagnosed it before you run your front inner tires bald. Factoring in replacement tires for the front, you're looking at an additional $500 unexpected wear-and-tear expense. Labor + parts for this issue can potentially lead up to $1000 and you're saying this is cheap? Please.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...y-plate-2.html
1% at total units produced = 51 units. Based on the complaint thread, there are more than 51 units reporting this issue. Provide numbers to validate your claim of >1% units suffering this issue.
06-01-18, 08:50 AM
#41
All you have is that Lexus (the manufacturer) failed to/did not recognize this issue enough to warrant attention for us (end users). Those of us who suffered with this think it's common enough, if you bothered to read the thread.
06-01-18, 08:52 AM
#42
So failure by design shifts the blame to the consumers? It is not a pitfall of reliability because it was designed to wear out faster than normal? Then this part was NOT reliable to begin with. Nowhere does it state that this part has a high tendency to failure due to design.
06-01-18, 09:25 AM
#43
So failure by design shifts the blame to the consumers? It is not a pitfall of reliability because it was designed to wear out faster than normal? Then this part was NOT reliable to begin with. Nowhere does it state that this part has a high tendency to failure due to design.
06-01-18, 04:38 PM
#44
So because you suffered you think that Lexus should have issued a recall or TSB? You're comment makes no sense whatsover because you have no idea how many other users were affected.
06-03-18, 06:33 AM
#45
Driver School Candidate
I purchased my 12 beginning this year as my daily. It is my commuter (admittedly short commute), kid transport (2 car seats in back), and weekend car. Are there some compromises when its a jack of all trades. Sure. Is it what I was looking for? Absolutely. It does everything I want it too and more. Sure, the suspension can be harsh on long road trips with rough roads or at expansion joints on bridges, but above 3500 RPM its all smiles. My wife has a car and we take it for most of the family outings. But my day to day ride is my ISF.
I'm a 4 door kind of guy. The level of performance in this size package and its versatility along with the stellar reliability is what helped sell me. I looked at the usual suspects, S4, C63, M3, M5 (older), RS6 (much older). All of them have some great attributes, but as my daily, I wanted/needed to count on the car 100% and attempt to avoid some of the larger pitfalls when at this performance level. Granted, maintenance goes a long way in keeping cars on the road, but some things are not avoidable.
My previous cars prior to this were:
99 Ford CTSV
06 Infiniti G35 6MT
08 Infiniti G35 6MT
10 Infiniti G37 7AT
Personally I also like that there are so few out there. I appreciate that most people have no idea what it is.
I'm a 4 door kind of guy. The level of performance in this size package and its versatility along with the stellar reliability is what helped sell me. I looked at the usual suspects, S4, C63, M3, M5 (older), RS6 (much older). All of them have some great attributes, but as my daily, I wanted/needed to count on the car 100% and attempt to avoid some of the larger pitfalls when at this performance level. Granted, maintenance goes a long way in keeping cars on the road, but some things are not avoidable.
My previous cars prior to this were:
99 Ford CTSV
06 Infiniti G35 6MT
08 Infiniti G35 6MT
10 Infiniti G37 7AT
Personally I also like that there are so few out there. I appreciate that most people have no idea what it is.