Apexsports

Well said, or the meaning of the hugs you get from family members when you're safely back in the pits after an endurance race.

JohnMorgan

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Literally watched the video today of you doing the 2013 run. Must have been sketchy driving in the wet yeah?

lobuxracer

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Indeed. Or seen your wife's tears after someone close to you has met an untimely end on track, and she's begging you not to drive again today.

Piston1047

Man, you guys got deep. You bring up some solid memories. Nothing can compare to a wheel to wheel race, I especially like endurance. Like Lobux says it is hard to explain the beating and mental strain you take. It's great but at the same time so many emotions are going on. One thing I remember is after going for 2 continuous hours for the first time and I began to literally daze off, later realizing, I'm literally driving in a race and I can't even focus and had to pull myself together. It's crazy when everything works and your car holds up, the pit stops go to plan and drivers are consistent, then you actually win and realize all the effort and tears that went into it. Even if you don't win it's awesome to find that rival in the race and have your own little mini battle.

Apexsports

I was there in 2013 with team Wfo Racing and rooting you on. Kudos to you sir.

Reflecting on that, this was heading toward turn 8 at big Willow in the late 80's. You're pinned out of 6 and through the kink in 7 so it's safe to say I didn't walk away from this one. Strangely, it happened due to someone crossing in front of me leaving nowhere to go, during a riding school of all places. With the layout at Willow as vast as it is my mom and girlfriend at the time knew it was me through the PA but were in the pits approx a mile from the site of the crash. It's kind of like, ok let's talk when you've put your family through thinking you're no doubt dead, or at the very least in a vegetative state, all due to your love of motorsports. Then continue doing it afterwards. It can be serious business at times.

semnosNSX

It's best to just ignore him when he gets up on his soap box and talks about how awesome he is because he tracks his car. This isn't the first time.... and unfortunately it definitely won't be the last.
So many great people here with so much experience...yet they still manage to stay humble. However, there will always be "that one guy"....

GermanF

Yaguchi-San is retired, he wasn´t involved in the development of the ne LC, also the LC500 has nothing to do with the F models.
He was involved in the LFA,IS-F, RC-F and GS-F, which were the first F cars available, and he did a great job on this cars.
Also this guy has visited us in Germany on his own costs, it wasn't a businesstrip sponsored by someone.

So no disappointment at all, even if I have to agree with you in some points.

And Tammer is a true fanatic, sure, some of you prefer to stay humble and undercover, even with so much experience with the F models.
But please don`t forget that exactly this is the typical Lexus problem, at least here in Germany, if you are too humble nobody will ever know about the true quality of this great cars.
F the Track site is the only site with great information and good pictures about the F models, I dont think that any "official" Lexus site is better, especially for all the guys out there from other countries.

kings222

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nice! I'm buddies with rob alon who races the rcf gt3 cars. If you want maybe i can get you something signed.

Quadrphnia

The problem is not just humility, the problem is eye-rolling condescension. Insisting that you've got to track the F to be a true owner of the car is just... hell... it's all been said already. Screw it.

I8ABMR - didn't you previously state that you don't do any of the work on your car? I haven't tracked my ISF, but I've done quite a bit of work on it. Me and me alone. What's that make me? What if I said you're a complete schmuck on wheels if you don't work on your own car? That you'd be missing the experience? That'd be - hopefully you guessed it - ridiculous.

Do you not see you're just being incessant with this talk? Do you deliberately surround yourself with lessers in real life that condone and repeatedly pat you on the back for this? You've been told post and post again. This is "art of conversation" feedback that may help you in the real world. Perhaps in your chosen circle you just don't need it.

mr2dave

knshro13 - cool stuff.

I8ABMR - keep it up and thanks for sharing

Apexsports

Cool to read your experience. It's interesting the phases your mind go through during the course of an endurance race. Getting into a rhythm where you literally feel out of body, especially during the 2nd half.

Well put, there's a big difference between passion and condescension, especially when the latter is unwarranted through lack of experience. I think OP will look back and have to laugh one day at the "I set a new world record" type posts, etc.

Sort of back on topic, it's great that you may get Yaguchi's autograph one day OP. If anything, at least this thread opened up some real discussion on trackday experiences.

FFM

I can't speak from experience on the road course outside a few HPDE's. I parted out my turbo integra after getting it setup for the road course due to buying an NSX, then sold the NSX prior to ever getting to take it on the track lol. Fail.

Autocrossed and 1320'd the crap out of that integra though. Built myself making 393whp/300wtq on pump, non VTEC LS with a stock bottom end haha. SOB lasted 4 years fed 18psi till the day I sold it off. 2552lbs wet

2URGSE

Man, you're so lucky. I wanted him to autograph my dash.

lobuxracer

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That was when I was working at Grizzly Performance in Sacramento building engines and bikes for road racers. Paul Vogel owned the shop - bought it from Craig Hansen - and we made a few trips to the big track. His Suzuki 1000 set a trap speed record on the front straight at 155 mph beating out Yoshimura's (in)famous Tornado because he had a box section seat with better aero...ah, those were the days. And the 24 hours there were just plain nuts. Of course that's slow now. I had more than one good friend visiting the hospital with very serious injuries back in those days and lost a few friends as well. Can't go fast and not fall down from time to time. But explaining that to the wife/girlfriend, well, that never goes easily.

DaveGS4

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Ok folks, closing this thread. Way too much personal commentary from both the OP and in many responses.