The hunt seems to last forever: red seated ISF
01-07-17, 08:22 PM
#46
01-07-17, 08:26 PM
#47
01-07-17, 08:35 PM
#48
JMT1011 I in no way knocking on the price for the F your dealership selling business is business. We all would want to pay as little as possible for the best ISF in our budget.
01-07-17, 08:46 PM
#49
No, trust me I'm not taking offense. I've been in the business for a long time so I know that everyone has a different opinion of what a good deal is. Just wanted to let the CL friends know of this super low mileage car. If someone is willing to pay in the $40's for a 2012 with 60k miles, I just wanted to let them know they have another option with lower miles, and a year newer. I would love for a member to get the car which is the only reason I posted.
01-07-17, 09:35 PM
#50
I define "way to high" as NADA valuation being around $33k. You know, what banks lend money on and how insurance will pay out on a total loss. You can also define it as KBB fair purchase price being $35k, even though KBB isn't the best authority on price. If he buys for $41,500, heck even $40k he just lost at least $5k right off the bat. We all love our cars but we have to be realistic about pricing when someone is asking for advice. But at the end of the day, it's what you are willing to pay for what you want👍
Earlier in the thread I was saying how rare and valuable these cars are and making my argument on how the '12-'14s with red interior (clean examples) demand a premium price. You fought hard clearly saying how much over priced the cars were, blah blah blah. Now you come here with a car your dealership has purchased and want $47,800 for a '13?!?!?! And asking everyone does warranty on a car "that doesn't really break"?!?! All your own words. And tell us, if OP or anyone buys this car from you guys, how much will they lose "right off the bat"?!?!??!?
You have to practice what you preach man.
And for the record, I don't think your asking g price is too far off from what the car is worth honestly, but according to you and your earlier post, your pricing is $7k-$10k too high (especially with resprayed bumpers). Also, never known a dealership to only change the front tires only.
For an example, I paid $41.5k or so (can't remember the exact amount now) on my SFP with red interior that had 22k-23k miles on it. They dealership put 4 new Michelin PSS tires on it, all fluids changed, fresh oil, full tank of 93 Oct gas, 4 new rotors, 4 new brake pads, interior and exterior detail. That's was 1 year ago also. Tell us why your dealerships car 1 model year newer than mine (which the only difference between the '12 and '13 F was a brighter nav display, nothing else....Unlike the the '14s which added a bunch of little goodies over the '12 and '13s) with only 7-8k miles less demands $8k more than mine cost???? Is it because you guys resprayed the bumpers and refinished the wheels??!?! That's the only difference between mine and that one really.
Sorry if it seems like I'm giving you a hard time. But you talked the guy out of the first one that was priced fairly and now trying to sell him one from your job for wayyyy higher....And only offers 1 model year newer and a few thousand less miles.
V.
01-08-17, 01:47 AM
#51
I am guessing if it's Lexus dealership, the mark up on that 2013 low miles ISF is at least $5-6k (probably much more). But considering what some are paying here, maybe it's a decent deal ($45k out the door sounds better though)
Just saw that $48k for CPO....Yeah that's too much.
If you use the same NADA and assume 2012 w/63k is $33k (which I think is correct and maximum I would pay), then 2013 w/14k is worth $42k, not $46.5k.....Sorry boss, that's not a good deal at all if there is no room to negotiate the price
Just saw that $48k for CPO....Yeah that's too much.
If you use the same NADA and assume 2012 w/63k is $33k (which I think is correct and maximum I would pay), then 2013 w/14k is worth $42k, not $46.5k.....Sorry boss, that's not a good deal at all if there is no room to negotiate the price
Last edited by kolyan; 01-08-17 at 02:31 AM.
01-08-17, 06:53 AM
#52
V I agree with you. I definitley am not saying this is the lowest priced car. We could have skimped out doing the bare minimum and just priced it really aggressively, but we decided to make it as good as it can be. We added close to $5,500 on top of the purchase price between the servicing, cosmetic, and the $1,395 CPO warranty! Stuff adds up super quick on these cars as most of us know. We also have the ability to lease this car! Do to that factor, I def feel spending all the money on it was worth it. I ran some preliminary lease payments and it would be comparable to leasing a new RC 350 F sport. Hopefully I made the right decision and this car doesn't sit too long!!! Again, I appreciate all the feedback on how the car is priced compared to what it should actually sell for. Not an easy car to market, especially considering some peeps may pony up slightly more for a RCF.
01-08-17, 08:57 AM
#53
V I agree with you. I definitley am not saying this is the lowest priced car. We could have skimped out doing the bare minimum and just priced it really aggressively, but we decided to make it as good as it can be. We added close to $5,500 on top of the purchase price between the servicing, cosmetic, and the $1,395 CPO warranty! Stuff adds up super quick on these cars as most of us know. We also have the ability to lease this car! Do to that factor, I def feel spending all the money on it was worth it. I ran some preliminary lease payments and it would be comparable to leasing a new RC 350 F sport. Hopefully I made the right decision and this car doesn't sit too long!!! Again, I appreciate all the feedback on how the car is priced compared to what it should actually sell for. Not an easy car to market, especially considering some peeps may pony up slightly more for a RCF.
Those number are true, I just looked it up ))PS. almost all CPOs get bumpers resprayed, so thats not something I would worry about or assume car worth less
01-08-17, 12:24 PM
#54
V I agree with you. I definitley am not saying this is the lowest priced car. We could have skimped out doing the bare minimum and just priced it really aggressively, but we decided to make it as good as it can be. We added close to $5,500 on top of the purchase price between the servicing, cosmetic, and the $1,395 CPO warranty! Stuff adds up super quick on these cars as most of us know. We also have the ability to lease this car! Do to that factor, I def feel spending all the money on it was worth it. I ran some preliminary lease payments and it would be comparable to leasing a new RC 350 F sport. Hopefully I made the right decision and this car doesn't sit too long!!! Again, I appreciate all the feedback on how the car is priced compared to what it should actually sell for. Not an easy car to market, especially considering some peeps may pony up slightly more for a RCF.
Good luck with the sale thought!! If I was in thearket for that car, I'd be willing to pay $44-45k for it.
V.
01-08-17, 01:16 PM
#55
I respect that professional respect that professional response! Again, I really don't think the asking price is far off from where it should be and I'm sure it'll sale because of the rarity and cleanings of this car. I was just finding it odd you were talking the price on F down and downplaying the market value then come back a day or two later with a super high priced one.
Good luck with the sale thought!! If I was in thearket for that car, I'd be willing to pay $44-45k for it.
V.
Good luck with the sale thought!! If I was in thearket for that car, I'd be willing to pay $44-45k for it.
V.
01-08-17, 03:53 PM
#56
regarding the 12 with 60k, I just didn't find that one to be a good value imo. You can find plenty of F's to choose from in the 30-60k mile range, which will give you more room to work on a price and get a better deal. I feel if you're going to pay a premium, why pay it for high miles? An AutoTrader search shows 20 2012-2014 F's with one guy listening a 1,800 mile 2013 for $55k! Now that is a premium price for the miles, though I doubt it will sell. There is a Subaru dealer listing a 14 with 25k miles for $49,900. But like I said in an early post, people will pay what they are comfortable with so long as they see the value in it, regardless of what the "right" price is.
V.
01-08-17, 04:24 PM
#57
01-08-17, 05:01 PM
#58
01-08-17, 05:14 PM
#59
Whats the big deal with '14s. It's exactly the same plus carbon fiber spoiler and I think hid fogs. I would rather get 2012/13 and save ton of cash
Last edited by kolyan; 01-08-17 at 05:41 PM.
01-08-17, 05:17 PM
#60
2014 ISF with 15K miles.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Lexus-IS-Is-F/192071904046?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D37338%26meid%3Dd5f21d18c36d4590bed63f909a06faf1%26pid%3D100085%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D192071904046%26clkid%3D1732992454963922659&_qi=RTM2247625
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Lexus-IS-Is-F/192071904046?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D37338%26meid%3Dd5f21d18c36d4590bed63f909a06faf1%26pid%3D100085%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D192071904046%26clkid%3D1732992454963922659&_qi=RTM2247625