Project Mu NS400 and OEM rotor quick review
#31
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#32
I currently have Stop Tech pads with the OEM rotors. The best thing about them is the price. Cost about 1/3 of what oem pads costs. As much or more dust than the oem pads and a bit less stopping power. I'm going with one of Project Mu pads next time. Just haven't decided on which one yet.
#33
Consider this fair warning--don't buy the Stoptechs. Get ready for massive brake dust and squeal. Even when I hand cleaned the calipers etc with a brush in every direction possible, they would be quiet for one day and then start squeeling again once the dust accumulated. Even worse is the material they transfer to the rotors if they are wet when you shut down for the night. Next day you will have a pad shaped section of rusty crud on your rotor that takes a couple of days to wear away while it feels like there is gravel in your brakes when stopping and like your rotors are completely warped.
Not sure how else to sway your opinion unless it's all about price. I just spent 1000$ on new parts just to get rid of those pads and the embarrassing squeeling that everyone around you notices. And I can safely say it was among the best 1000$ I've spent.
Not sure how else to sway your opinion unless it's all about price. I just spent 1000$ on new parts just to get rid of those pads and the embarrassing squeeling that everyone around you notices. And I can safely say it was among the best 1000$ I've spent.
#34
Consider this fair warning--don't buy the Stoptechs. Get ready for massive brake dust and squeal. Even when I hand cleaned the calipers etc with a brush in every direction possible, they would be quiet for one day and then start squeeling again once the dust accumulated. Even worse is the material they transfer to the rotors if they are wet when you shut down for the night. Next day you will have a pad shaped section of rusty crud on your rotor that takes a couple of days to wear away while it feels like there is gravel in your brakes when stopping and like your rotors are completely warped.
Not sure how else to sway your opinion unless it's all about price. I just spent 1000$ on new parts just to get rid of those pads and the embarrassing squeeling that everyone around you notices. And I can safely say it was among the best 1000$ I've spent.
Not sure how else to sway your opinion unless it's all about price. I just spent 1000$ on new parts just to get rid of those pads and the embarrassing squeeling that everyone around you notices. And I can safely say it was among the best 1000$ I've spent.
#36
Washed the car for the first time since getting the pads and not much dust came off. Nice. This makes washing the car so much easier.
After some more experience with the pads I think I can describe the braking of the NS400s as almost biphasic: when you initially step on the pedal you get good, smooth stopping, but press a little harder and the stopping power seems to go up exponentially. A really nice set up for the street. Even though the initial bite is gentle, which is good for smoothness, you just need to press a bit harder to get into really good braking. Couldn't be happier overall.
After some more experience with the pads I think I can describe the braking of the NS400s as almost biphasic: when you initially step on the pedal you get good, smooth stopping, but press a little harder and the stopping power seems to go up exponentially. A really nice set up for the street. Even though the initial bite is gentle, which is good for smoothness, you just need to press a bit harder to get into really good braking. Couldn't be happier overall.
#37
I like my ns400 pads. I have ns400 pads in the front and oem rears and i think they have about the same dust rate. Its night and day difference the dust compared to oem fronts. They are definitely a good street driving pad. I however do miss the initial bite of the oem pads. As mentioned, you lose the nice hard initial bite of the oem pads, which yes it does make for smoother braking, but ive been in a hand full of situations where i've gotten cut off or had to hit the brakes hard and my confidence in stopping wasn't like it was when i had oem pads.
#39
I like my ns400 pads. I have ns400 pads in the front and oem rears and i think they have about the same dust rate. Its night and day difference the dust compared to oem fronts. They are definitely a good street driving pad. I however do miss the initial bite of the oem pads. As mentioned, you lose the nice hard initial bite of the oem pads, which yes it does make for smoother braking, but ive been in a hand full of situations where i've gotten cut off or had to hit the brakes hard and my confidence in stopping wasn't like it was when i had oem pads.
#40
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^^^^True, but he's talking about initial brake bite. When the tires give, they skid. I have Ferodo DS2500/PM HC+800 combo, and my initial bite is outstanding, and I luv the feel. But with a high initial bite pad, you do need to get yourself acclimated, but once you do - It's absolutely GREAT
Lou
Lou
Last edited by flowrider; 09-01-16 at 12:29 PM.
#41
^^^^True, but he's talking about initial brake bite. When the tires give, they skid. I have Ferodo DS2500/PM HC+800 combo, and my initial bite is outstanding, and I luv the feel. But with a high initial bite pad, you do need to get yourself acclimated, but once you do - It's absolutely GREAT
Lou
Lou
#42
StopTechs here with zero issues. No squealing and about 40% less dust. I broke them in exactly as stated on their website. Just another opinion.
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