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I traded my 2011 F in on a 2012 CTS-V. Really wanted a manual tranny again and found the perfect car. Black with black wheels and yellow calipers, no sunroof. Car is such a beast but I had to really laugh at the gauge cluster. Def looks like it came from a late 90s Camaro. Besides that though the interior is pretty nice. With no sunroof and manual trans my V weighs about as much as an RC-F so it's a porker but not too bad. I really like the ATS-V but my problem is the first one I looked at was the Frost White(aka Matte White) carbon fiber aero package edition. Car was just beautiful and other ATS-V cars just look bland compared to it. I say "problem" because car was $80k and way out of my price range. Dealers near me def have a huge supply of ATS-V cars and are def willing to deal. Love my CTS-V but I still have a soft spot for my F cause it was like my first child, my first nice car I ever owned. This forum rocks so this "CTS-V Troll" still stays on it to see what the F community is up to.
IMHO; GM & Chrysler have struggled in fit, finish, quality, reliability ever since the late 1970s and when GM & Chrysler accepted free bailout money in the form of our taxpayer dollars in 2009, i think it made matters worse. When our politicians decided those companies were too big to fail, it allowed them an easy out during the recession. Therefore they didn't have to reform or improve; they continued their lazy business-as-usual tactics. Remember the UAW Jobs Bank, where union workers could continue to receive full pay and benefits even when they weren't working?
Their upper management salaries and their generous union contracts continued to grow, so to compensate their products had to be made cheaper. Of the big three, only Ford refused the bailout money.
Don't get me wrong, I loved American muscle from around 1971 and older and I owned a few of them. Just saying' in the last few decades while Detroit was fumbling the ball, Japan was quietly infiltrating the global market with exceptional quality and reliability...
Well the 2008-2010 were similar suspension wise with the 2010 having the LSD. 2011+ are the ones with the big handling overhaul but still not as good as the ATS-V. Thing supposed to be amazing in the handling department.
I really dig the ATS-V, looks great in blue. Just wished GM would have stuffed a better looking instrument cluster in there considering it's in your face the whole time you drive. If you just dropped $60k+, last thing you want is a gauge cluster that reminds you of a 90s Malibu.
I wouldnt want the car just based on the cluster. I wouldnt want to look at that ugly *** thing. It looks so cheap Makes you feel like if they dropped the ball on something SO obvious, what else did they screw up that you will not see until after owning the car
I wouldnt want the car just based on the cluster. I wouldnt want to look at that ugly *** thing. It looks so cheap Makes you feel like if they dropped the ball on something SO obvious, what else did they screw up that you will not see until after owning the car
Also agreed with everybody else about the horrible instrument cluster. Really Cadillac just needs to fire their entire interior design team and the guys who came up with CUE. You can still see obvious signs of cheapness, and personally I cannot stand how busy their interiors look. There are a bunch of cut lines on the doors/dash/console, with like 4 or 5 different/contrasting types of materials all over the place.
Between the V6, the ugly gauge cluster, and CUE system, I think the previous supercharged V8 CTS-V is a much better car.
that cluster is just a turn off... i was looking into a ATS-V sedan for my next car cuz its got manual which IS-F or RC-F don't have... but damn that cluster looks like it came out of a cavalier...
Yeah guys, I mean if it was a different part maybe it could be ignored but it's an instrument cluster! That's the part that's in your face everytime you drive.
It's like having a girlfriend with a hot body that does everything well, but then her face looks like this.
04-14-16, 06:04 PM
