John Coyle

Just posted this over on the Blog.

The sales numbers seem like cause for concern, but it also feels like there's still space for the hot four door in the lineup. Maybe some spill over from RC F fans who really need the space?

WillRockwe

The IS-F was designed as a complete, unchanging package, like the Ford GT. Yes, it changed a little, but the idea was to make the car unique, identifiable, and collectible. Our F's will increase in value when the model ends, even if there is a future four door F.

Bigcloud

I think that by not offering a 4-door saloon like BMW, Audi, and Mercedes does they will be doing a disservice to themselves if they really want to compete with the German automakers. To develop a legacy and fan following they have to build these cars. Just look at BMW they build some great performance machines more performance vehicles than regular econoboxes. Lexus/Toyota is trying to do both. I think it's hard to do both.

GSCT

Dumb move. If BMW has 3 (4 door) and 4 (coupe) M series, Lexus needs both IS F and RC F to remain competitive.

calteg

Anyone know the differences between the IS-F and RC-F engines? The IS-F is rated at 213hp, but the RC-F is rated at 250+....wondering where they pulled the extra ponies from...

gshyu

Possible collector's item? Time to keep the miles off and drive the company issuee Civic Si instead!

ISFWes

So its going to be the next Supra? You can already see people dumping there ISF cars. Waiting for the RCF to become available.

lobuxracer

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Those numbers look pretty low for both. The ISF is rated at 416. The RCF has not been officially announced yet.

flowrider

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^^^^I've read in more than one publication that the number will be 460HP.

Lou

WillRockwe

I thought the Supra was popular because it's so moddable. I think IS-F's will be more like the NS-X, a great design that doesn't break.

kickinazz

Dude why are you talking about the sport??? Thiss is about ISF and RCF they are rated at 416 and 460 bhp.

lobuxracer

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I've seen that too, but we won't know the official US number until it is released. There was a ridiculous amount of speculation about the IS-F's horsepower number right up to the day it was announced. I was one of the speculators, and I have to say, I was disappointed to discover the IS350 made more hp/liter than the IS-F. Parity would have been nice, but it wasn't to be. So, I'll just wait until it's official, then after a few owners do some dyno testing we'll all know what the real world numbers are.

pigwet

I asked my dealer and they said no. But I don't necessarily think they have better information than the forums.

shahir18

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