ISF and RCF 5.0 whats the difference
05-10-14, 07:48 AM
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lol adapt the tune what.. the ECU for our cars does more than engine work BTW.. it controls everything wired in our cars.. means their ECU is not compatible if thats what you were hoping for.
Yeah its also a race car, not a production car.. difference being Lexus is able to tune the car (whereas we can't) and the other controls of the ECU can be disabled if there are complications, not necessarily needed in a race car.
You guys think these cars are like Hondas? Where we can take a bottom end from one engine or the head from another and then slap on a custom sized header (k20 head/k24 bottom) then create a Frankenstein with more power? Well if thats the case it still requires a custom ECU to tune, can't slap them together and force the ECU to compensate for the output difference.
Even changing the intake manifold from the RC-F may complicate things a whole lot.. Anyways, lots of ignorance in this thread and a whole lot of wishing. These cars are not to be tampered with, Lexus made it clear from the beginning.
Yeah its also a race car, not a production car.. difference being Lexus is able to tune the car (whereas we can't) and the other controls of the ECU can be disabled if there are complications, not necessarily needed in a race car.
You guys think these cars are like Hondas? Where we can take a bottom end from one engine or the head from another and then slap on a custom sized header (k20 head/k24 bottom) then create a Frankenstein with more power? Well if thats the case it still requires a custom ECU to tune, can't slap them together and force the ECU to compensate for the output difference.
Even changing the intake manifold from the RC-F may complicate things a whole lot.. Anyways, lots of ignorance in this thread and a whole lot of wishing. These cars are not to be tampered with, Lexus made it clear from the beginning.
05-10-14, 08:00 AM
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05-10-14, 11:37 AM
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lol adapt the tune what.. the ECU for our cars does more than engine work BTW.. it controls everything wired in our cars.. means their ECU is not compatible if thats what you were hoping for.
Yeah its also a race car, not a production car.. difference being Lexus is able to tune the car (whereas we can't) and the other controls of the ECU can be disabled if there are complications, not necessarily needed in a race car.
You guys think these cars are like Hondas? Where we can take a bottom end from one engine or the head from another and then slap on a custom sized header (k20 head/k24 bottom) then create a Frankenstein with more power? Well if thats the case it still requires a custom ECU to tune, can't slap them together and force the ECU to compensate for the output difference.
Even changing the intake manifold from the RC-F may complicate things a whole lot.. Anyways, lots of ignorance in this thread and a whole lot of wishing. These cars are not to be tampered with, Lexus made it clear from the beginning.
Yeah its also a race car, not a production car.. difference being Lexus is able to tune the car (whereas we can't) and the other controls of the ECU can be disabled if there are complications, not necessarily needed in a race car.
You guys think these cars are like Hondas? Where we can take a bottom end from one engine or the head from another and then slap on a custom sized header (k20 head/k24 bottom) then create a Frankenstein with more power? Well if thats the case it still requires a custom ECU to tune, can't slap them together and force the ECU to compensate for the output difference.
Even changing the intake manifold from the RC-F may complicate things a whole lot.. Anyways, lots of ignorance in this thread and a whole lot of wishing. These cars are not to be tampered with, Lexus made it clear from the beginning.
05-10-14, 12:44 PM
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Race car or not it can still be done! I swapped an ISF motor into my buddies IS250 2 years ago and it runs fine. Anything is possible, its not easy but its possible. Nothing from the IS350 swap matched up but after many hours everything came together. even got all the ECU's to communicate with each other.
Hey if you consider yourself 5 years old then I suppose you have a good reason to be spoon fed information
05-11-14, 05:59 PM
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Yes the 2UR-GSE has all forged internals and titanium intake valves. It's not entirely clear what demons Lexus exorcised with the new engine, but suffice it to say, if it's like any other Toyota, there is almost zero hope of grafting bits from the 2UR-GSE to the RCF's engine and vice versa. Anyone who ever tried to play mix n' match with USDM 2JZ-GTE turbos and JDM 2JZ-GTE turbos will tell you just how far they go to ensure it won't work without creating a new hybrid casting and machining it.
With the advent of 3D printing, this might become more practical. I sincerely hope so. There are certain processes in the engine part manufacturing trade I'd like to see improved by digital printing instead of sand casting or reshaping with the part at high temperature. If you're familiar with how crankshafts are made, you'll know exactly what I'm thinking about, especially if I could "print" a titanium crank.
With the advent of 3D printing, this might become more practical. I sincerely hope so. There are certain processes in the engine part manufacturing trade I'd like to see improved by digital printing instead of sand casting or reshaping with the part at high temperature. If you're familiar with how crankshafts are made, you'll know exactly what I'm thinking about, especially if I could "print" a titanium crank.
05-11-14, 07:48 PM
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Any engine can be tuned for more power with a standalone ECU system. AEM has quite a few and im surprised no one has use any of them yet. Just find a way to control everything else in the car if you want it on the road lol
05-11-14, 08:42 PM
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Yes the 2UR-GSE has all forged internals and titanium intake valves. It's not entirely clear what demons Lexus exorcised with the new engine, but suffice it to say, if it's like any other Toyota, there is almost zero hope of grafting bits from the 2UR-GSE to the RCF's engine and vice versa. Anyone who ever tried to play mix n' match with USDM 2JZ-GTE turbos and JDM 2JZ-GTE turbos will tell you just how far they go to ensure it won't work without creating a new hybrid casting and machining it.
With the advent of 3D printing, this might become more practical. I sincerely hope so. There are certain processes in the engine part manufacturing trade I'd like to see improved by digital printing instead of sand casting or reshaping with the part at high temperature. If you're familiar with how crankshafts are made, you'll know exactly what I'm thinking about, especially if I could "print" a titanium crank.
With the advent of 3D printing, this might become more practical. I sincerely hope so. There are certain processes in the engine part manufacturing trade I'd like to see improved by digital printing instead of sand casting or reshaping with the part at high temperature. If you're familiar with how crankshafts are made, you'll know exactly what I'm thinking about, especially if I could "print" a titanium crank.
