Still drifting to the right
02-16-12, 08:12 AM
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1) have them swap your tires to rule out conicity issues
2) get the rear/front subframe adjusted until the car tracks straight on a FLAT road
3) get alignment again
^^^ As mentioned I had these done and my car still pulls right, slightly but noticeably. I was offered to get my caster brackets changed (adjusts caster), but will run me ~$400:
- $250 for parts and labor
- $130 for alignment
- $20 tax?
I'm holding off since another member mentioned his car pulled even with these brackets in. I'll live with it until I need an alignment, which is when I will get the brackets put in.
02-16-12, 08:27 AM
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Not width, circumference. Put a tape measure around the tire and measure it. They should be nearly identical. This is easy to do with the tires off, but next to impossible with the tires on the car.
02-16-12, 08:57 AM
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Danny,
Sounds to me like radial pull.Try swapping your front tires from right to left or vice versa to see what happens and if the issue gets fixed. Happened to use recently on a car we did and went through the hole process and came to find that it was just the tires. Lobux has pretty much the same idea. If you want pass by the shop and we can try it out.
Gio
Sounds to me like radial pull.Try swapping your front tires from right to left or vice versa to see what happens and if the issue gets fixed. Happened to use recently on a car we did and went through the hole process and came to find that it was just the tires. Lobux has pretty much the same idea. If you want pass by the shop and we can try it out.
Gio
02-16-12, 09:49 AM
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Danny,
Sounds to me like radial pull.Try swapping your front tires from right to left or vice versa to see what happens and if the issue gets fixed. Happened to use recently on a car we did and went through the hole process and came to find that it was just the tires. Lobux has pretty much the same idea. If you want pass by the shop and we can try it out.
Gio
Sounds to me like radial pull.Try swapping your front tires from right to left or vice versa to see what happens and if the issue gets fixed. Happened to use recently on a car we did and went through the hole process and came to find that it was just the tires. Lobux has pretty much the same idea. If you want pass by the shop and we can try it out.
Gio
I'll also measure the wheel/rims. Yes the tires are all the same brand, I mounted this combo less than a month ago.
02-25-12, 11:31 PM
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kinda glad to see I am not alone. My 11 that I have had since 1 Jan has 1,700 miles and it pulls slight right as well. I thought it was road crown but it even happens when I am on the left side of the highway or while on the relatively flat side streets near my home. Really puzzling to see this. You think Lexus would have a TSB or something done about this. I really noticed this when I took the car on a short road trip. Does anyone know if there has been acknowledgment from Lexus concerning this?
03-13-12, 09:24 AM
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I went to my Lexus dealership yesterday to talk about it and they had no clue what i was talking about. When I talked about re-aligning my sub frame, again they had no clue what i was talking about. The shop forman's exact words were "The sub frame on an F can't be adjusted". I told him that's funny because I know of about 25 people on clublexus that have done it... I then called a highly recommended alignment shop and got the same result. They said they didn't know how to do that if it didn't involve toe/camber adjustments..He DID know what a caster bracket was and said he could install them.. Gonna pick those up today when i pick up my PSS 275's for the rear...
03-13-12, 10:00 AM
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I went to my Lexus dealership yesterday to talk about it and they had no clue what i was talking about. When I talked about re-aligning my sub frame, again they had no clue what i was talking about. The shop forman's exact words were "The sub frame on an F can't be adjusted". I told him that's funny because I know of about 25 people on clublexus that have done it... I then called a highly recommended alignment shop and got the same result. They said they didn't know how to do that if it didn't involve toe/camber adjustments..He DID know what a caster bracket was and said he could install them.. Gonna pick those up today when i pick up my PSS 275's for the rear...
As far as getting the dealer to do it, go luck. Lexus customer service is for *****. have a look at my other thread about my nightmare with Lexus and it is STILL not resolved.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...t-74-days.html
03-13-12, 12:05 PM
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same here, it took quite a while for them to get it done right. they didn't even know what was causing it until I suggested the brackets. from looking at my recent alignment sheets it looks like the brackets was taken off. im gonna check with my dealership cuz they installed it and somehow now they were taken off.
03-14-12, 07:22 PM
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ISX50s cannot have the subframe adjusted, they are pinned with dowels. The ISF can, but most dealers do not know this. The ISF subframe is different (go figure). Have them check. It probably only needs to move a few millimeters to correct, equal caster and camber is needed left to right to solve the problem. Ask me how I know.... I had the same problem and it took ~6 trips to get it right.
As far as getting the dealer to do it, go luck. Lexus customer service is for *****. have a look at my other thread about my nightmare with Lexus and it is STILL not resolved.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...t-74-days.html
As far as getting the dealer to do it, go luck. Lexus customer service is for *****. have a look at my other thread about my nightmare with Lexus and it is STILL not resolved.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...t-74-days.html
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03-15-12, 07:12 PM
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I went in and had my alignment corrected. it was out by a little bit. But that does not seem to fix the drift right. I talked to the service guy about adjusting the subframe and he looked at me like I was crazy. I told him that others have had it done to correct the problem but he was firm in his stance that it cannot be. I am going to go back and have them put it on the rack again to see if it is out again. I still don't think that is the problem though. After this does not work I am going to bring it up with the service manager and see where that gets me. if that does not seem to work then maybe the twitter option may work and or some other means.
I really have to think Lexus has some kind of clue about this. This just can't be an issue that is out there flapping.
I really have to think Lexus has some kind of clue about this. This just can't be an issue that is out there flapping.