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cfauvel Sep 13, 2021 05:37 AM

SOLVED - top doesn't goes up and down sometimes
 
My daughter's 2010 , new-to-her, IS250c was having issues with the top...You'd put the top down and and wouldn't go back up not matter how many times you tried . Multiple times she had to drive home from work and put the car into the garage and work from home. She'd tried every so often and eventually it would work.

There were no warnings on the dash and no codes stored. We took a gamble and replaced the switch on the dash.THAT WORKED.

Pburkes Sep 13, 2021 06:12 AM

Glad you solved the problem
 
My “new to me” for 1 year old 2010 350 ISC doesn’t have any convertible top problems but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t say a little prayer each and every time I let it up/down. It’s what I worry about the most with our car!

cfauvel Sep 13, 2021 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Pburkes (Post 11125217)
My “new to me” for 1 year old 2010 350 ISC doesn’t have any convertible top problems but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t say a little prayer each and every time I let it up/down. It’s what I worry about the most with our car!

Have you seen in the service manual, how to manually pull up the roof? it is a 2 man job requiring tools !!!!

Pburkes Sep 13, 2021 04:27 PM

😳
 
Lord NO! I hope I never have to read it!

DennisMik Sep 14, 2021 08:21 AM

My 2010 was bought back by Lexus under the Lemon Law from the first owner because of convertible top problems. And then I bought it. It's only cost me $2400 so far.

Here is a pic of $2400 -

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...d1d3952f57.jpg

cfauvel Sep 14, 2021 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by DennisMik (Post 11126053)
My 2010 was bought back by Lexus under the Lemon Law from the first owner because of convertible top problems. And then I bought it. It's only cost me $2400 so far.

Here is a pic of $2400 -

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...d1d3952f57.jpg

I read your woes, and even did some searches for those stupid little microswitches....Did the dash tell you where the issue was or did the Toyota TechStream had to be hooked up to tell you/them where the problem was ?

DennisMik Sep 14, 2021 11:45 AM

The dash only gave an annoying minute long beep. I do not have techstream but my OBD code reader gave me a code (not all will). However, I did not have any information that translated that code to the individual/specific part. Even if I did, I don't think I would have attempted to replace that assembly that has the microswitches.

Lmk12 Sep 29, 2021 01:12 PM

There is a video on you tube somewhere and this guy shows how to do it yourself. You need like a broom handle to hold up the other side. He does it in like 10 minute sin real time but slows it down to show how to do it. I am looking for a 350C and this really is my only concern after talking to multiple mechanic and one's working for Lexus plus my own.....fyi

cfauvel Sep 29, 2021 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Lmk12 (Post 11135706)
There is a video on you tube somewhere and this guy shows how to do it yourself. You need like a broom handle to hold up the other side. He does it in like 10 minute sin real time but slows it down to show how to do it. I am looking for a 350C and this really is my only concern after talking to multiple mechanic and one's working for Lexus plus my own.....fyi

Great to know...looking that up now.


Lmk12 Sep 29, 2021 01:56 PM


This is for a sc 430 which I have seen before but know there is one for the 250C or 350C...Might even be on this site....LOL

DennisMik Oct 6, 2021 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by cfauvel (Post 11125201)
My daughter's 2010 , new-to-her, IS250c was having issues with the top...You'd put the top down and and wouldn't go back up not matter how many times you tried .She tried every so often and eventually it would work.

There were no warnings on the dash and no codes stored. We took a gamble and replaced the switch on the dash. THAT WORKED.

Yesterday my wife told me that the top on her car was not going up. This was as we had just parked the car at the grocery store. Same as yours, no error message, no error tone.

So today I tried to pull the switch out. Failed at that but I was able to get my hand up over the switch and on the wire harness connector. I wiggled and pulled on it and then tried it. The top came up when I pushed the switch!!

I don't know how long this "fix" will last. I hope it is a long time.

Lmk12 Oct 6, 2021 06:52 PM

have an electrician or your mechanic just redo the wire so it stays. Then you won't have to worry about it. Otherwise It might just become loose again. Just saying

cfauvel Oct 7, 2021 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by DennisMik (Post 11140244)
Yesterday my wife told me that the top on her car was not going up. This was as we had just parked the car at the grocery store. Same as yours, no error message, no error tone.

So today I tried to pull the switch out. Failed at that but I was able to get my hand up over the switch and on the wire harness connector. I wiggled and pulled on it and then tried it. The top came up when I pushed the switch!!

I don't know how long this "fix" will last. I hope it is a long time.

It is not too hard to remove it.
1 - side dash panel unclips (where the door would close on)
2 - a couple of screws holding the black knee panel.
3 - the panel where the switch lives unclips from the dash, giving you just enough room to unclip the electronic switches

4 - the top switch comes out from the back.



DennisMik Oct 7, 2021 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by cfauvel (Post 11140538)
It is not too hard to remove it.
1 - side dash panel unclips (where the door would close on)
2 - a couple of screws holding the black knee panel.
3 - the panel where the switch lives unclips from the dash, giving you just enough room to unclip the electronic switches
4 - the top switch comes out from the back.

I did have the panel with the switches almost out of the dash. It just pops into the dash with one nasty exception - there is a philips head screw located on the right side, approx an inch up from the bottom. I did remove the black knee panel so I could get a screwdriver in there from the rear, but I didn't have one the correct length. My guess is you need an 8 inch long screwdriver.

benmunger Oct 14, 2021 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by cfauvel (Post 11125201)
My daughter's 2010 , new-to-her, IS250c was having issues with the top...You'd put the top down and and wouldn't go back up not matter how many times you tried . Multiple times she had to drive home from work and put the car into the garage and work from home. She'd tried every so often and eventually it would work.

There were no warnings on the dash and no codes stored. We took a gamble and replaced the switch on the dash.THAT WORKED.


What did you do with the broken switch?


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