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Old 01-31-19, 01:22 AM
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Default 2016 IS 200t F sport brake DYI questions

Hey guys,

Im going to be replacing my brake pads and rotors on my 2016 IS 200T F sport, due to a warped rotor and worn pads. I've previously taken all car maintences to the dealer, but it's gotten pretty expensive for brake jobs. I've watched various youtube videos and community posts that others have shared. Im ordering the tools now, and have a general idea of what to do, except for a few questions.
  1. Is this ok to use as a lube for shims and back of the pads?
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    Or should I be using copper anti seize?
  2. What is the socket size to remove the caliper bolts?
  3. What is the torque spec for the caliper bolts?
  4. Someone mind confirming if the wheel lug nut socket size is 21mm?
Any help appreciated

Thanks!
Old 01-31-19, 04:56 AM
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Havien't seen/used that specific product before. Typically on the pad backing before the shims go on I use the copper anti-seize, as well as the edges of the pad where it slides into the caliper (for the front brakes) or the edge of the pads where it fits into the caliper bracket (for the rear brakes).
For any slider pins I would use a silicone lube...similar to the product you linked.

So to address your questions (assuming you're doing the front only):

1. I would use the copper anti-seize...although the linked product claims to do the same, pretty much
2. 17mm
3. 100ft lbs
4. Original nuts? Yes it's 21mm

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Old 01-31-19, 12:25 PM
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If you're located in the Bay Area i might be able to help you out.
I'd use copper anti-seize for the hardware. Caliper sliding bolts if you choose to lube em use a silicone based lube.
Like Sasnuke said, caliper bolt is 100ft lbs per the manual
and wheel lugs are 21mm

I thought this video was pretty well made


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Use this and this only for brake lube: https://amzn.to/2MIJxOA

Apply on piston to shim, between shims, and shim to piston. Basically all the layers of contact from the piston to the pad. VERY light coating. and pad ears where it contacts the caliper block. LIGHTLY. I havent had a squeak come back since

tools, see my DIY thread in signature.

PS don't do the drilled/slotted rotors. they suck. Extreme groaning.

Edit: fixed link

Pads, go professionial OEM German F Sport. The germans know what they're doing. This is why Lexus chose them! And why BMW, Mercedes, Porsche does too.

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Originally Posted by E46CT
Use this and this only for brake lube: https://amzn.to/2D669nM

Apply on piston to shim, between shims, and shim to piston. Basically all the layers of contact from the piston to the pad. VERY light coating. and pad ears where it contacts the caliper block. LIGHTLY. I havent had a squeak come back since

tools, see my DIY thread in signature.

PS don't do the drilled/slotted rotors. they suck. Extreme groaning.

Edit: fixed link

Pads, go professionial OEM German F Sport. The germans know what they're doing. This is why Lexus chose them! And why BMW, Mercedes, Porsche does too.
It's still showing up as rtv...
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Originally Posted by itsx
It's still showing up as rtv...
Yeah, let's not use rtv silicone on the brakes.
Although after it bonds everything together in 24 hours, i wonder how well the brakes will function lol
Let's NOT find out
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Here you go. damn clipboard error https://amzn.to/2MIJxOA
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Originally Posted by E46CT
Here you go. damn clipboard error https://amzn.to/2MIJxOA
I always thought that their copper anti seize had a higher temp tolerance than the ceramic. Curious why you pick the ceramic over copper
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I personally use whatever comes with the pads or copper anti seize. I have never had an issue with either one.
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I'm pretty stumped .I can't remove the rotor. I've tried hammering it .What else can I do to remove the rotor?
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Originally Posted by popopanda
I'm pretty stumped .I can't remove the rotor. I've tried hammering it .What else can I do to remove the rotor?
It's likely seized on there. You're gonna have to hit the rotor harder like a donkey kick. Alternating between different sides, top bottom sides etc. That's how i got mine off
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I went and got a bigger hammer and wd40 . No luck .

On the video it shows the guy screwing a bolt to remove the stuck rotor, what is the size for that?

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Just to confirm. There's no screw or bolt holding the rotor right?

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Originally Posted by popopanda

Just to confirm. There's no screw or bolt holding the rotor right?
no, no bolts holding the rotor on. screw bolt into one or both of the holes to pop the rotor off, or grab a mallet/hammer and smack the rotor from the backside (avoiding the heatshield) if you are going to replace the rotor anyway. If you are keeping the rotor to resurface, then use the bolt method.
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Phew, just finished. After hitting it for a while it finally came off. I'm pretty surprised that was the hardest bit of the whole process

But glad that I'm finally finished, and once I finished with one wheel. The second wheel was rather simple.

I appreciate all the advices! Thank you very much!

Last question. Are the brake pads suppose to rub on the rotor when I spin the rotors?
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After attaching the tire wheel back to the hub, i noticed it doesnt spin freely either



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