3rd gen quirks
12-05-18, 09:55 AM
#16
I wish there was a way to turn on and off the adaptive cruise part of the cruise control.
traction control, turns off only briefly, and must be at pretty much standstill to turn it off. That's annoying to me
memory seats. It's kinda stupid that it's not included with the price considering pretty much all its competitors have it standard. I mean, my 04 bmw had it.
digital clock on the cluster would be nice.
remote start takeover, apparently viper systems dont have this issue.
apple carplay/android auto
rear seat heaters. If they're putting it in something like a kia or Hyundai, it should be on a Lexus.
traction control, turns off only briefly, and must be at pretty much standstill to turn it off. That's annoying to me
memory seats. It's kinda stupid that it's not included with the price considering pretty much all its competitors have it standard. I mean, my 04 bmw had it.
digital clock on the cluster would be nice.
remote start takeover, apparently viper systems dont have this issue.
apple carplay/android auto
rear seat heaters. If they're putting it in something like a kia or Hyundai, it should be on a Lexus.
the 2019 IS does have a digital clock on the cluster at least.
12-05-18, 10:14 AM
#17
Jay, it sounds like two of your problems can be solved by simply holding the button rather than pressing it. If you hold the cruise control button on the end of the lever, it switches from ACC to just normal. The symbol will pop up differently as well. And for traction control, if you hold the button it will stay off until you press it again, or at least that's what I've done.
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12-05-18, 10:22 AM
#18
I purchased my '18 350 AWD F Sport this past October, and there are a bunch of things on the car I consider to be weird. I'm coming from a 2007 Acura TL BTW.
My wipers and headlights seem fine, although I much prefer HID to LED.
Here's my list of what I think is weird.
1. The car should have the option of memory seats, and at a bare minimum, auto-tilt side mirrors.
2. The car should at least have the option of some small, body-color mud flaps.
3. I think the start button is in a weird place, and I find myself frequently hitting the wiper stalk reaching for it.
4. The AWD trans tunnel bump is weird for sure.
5. The wheels are extremely heavy, even for factory wheels, and the tire choice was just terrible.
6. The front brake calipers should say 'Lexus' or 'F Sport' on them, as they look extremely plain without a logo. You can even tell that the big flat spot on top was made for a logo.
7. The additional front wheel fender gap is going to be a pain in my **** because I really don't want to lower the rear.
8. The engine sound itself is a bit weird to me.
9. The whole infotainment system is complete fail IMO.
10. The finish on the F Sport volume and tune buttons is completely out of place. I ordered the standard version.
11. The push-to-open gas door is weird, as is where the cap sits.
12. I should be able to lock the drive mode so that when I start the car next, it's in that mode. But I can't.
13. The outside of the car is obviously bigger than my old TL, but the inside is obviously smaller. Weird.
14. The Mark Levnison stereo is literally made for CD's (MP3/4 doesn't have the dynamic range to take full advantage of it).
15. The fact that Toyota knows the car eats tires and hasn't come up with a good solution while preserving the handling is a bit weird.
If I had a choice between a new, 2008 Acura TL Type S or this new 2018 IS350 AWD F Sport, I'd choose the Acura. It's just a shame that the new TLX hasn't evolved as well as I wanted it to.
Having said all these things, I like the styling of the IS, the reliability, the QUIET, the soft ride, the steering wheel, the gauges, and the fact that I can fit a 10" rear wheel out back with a 275 on it.
It was the best choice for the moment.
My wipers and headlights seem fine, although I much prefer HID to LED.
Here's my list of what I think is weird.
1. The car should have the option of memory seats, and at a bare minimum, auto-tilt side mirrors.
2. The car should at least have the option of some small, body-color mud flaps.
3. I think the start button is in a weird place, and I find myself frequently hitting the wiper stalk reaching for it.
4. The AWD trans tunnel bump is weird for sure.
5. The wheels are extremely heavy, even for factory wheels, and the tire choice was just terrible.
6. The front brake calipers should say 'Lexus' or 'F Sport' on them, as they look extremely plain without a logo. You can even tell that the big flat spot on top was made for a logo.
7. The additional front wheel fender gap is going to be a pain in my **** because I really don't want to lower the rear.
8. The engine sound itself is a bit weird to me.
9. The whole infotainment system is complete fail IMO.
10. The finish on the F Sport volume and tune buttons is completely out of place. I ordered the standard version.
11. The push-to-open gas door is weird, as is where the cap sits.
12. I should be able to lock the drive mode so that when I start the car next, it's in that mode. But I can't.
13. The outside of the car is obviously bigger than my old TL, but the inside is obviously smaller. Weird.
14. The Mark Levnison stereo is literally made for CD's (MP3/4 doesn't have the dynamic range to take full advantage of it).
15. The fact that Toyota knows the car eats tires and hasn't come up with a good solution while preserving the handling is a bit weird.
If I had a choice between a new, 2008 Acura TL Type S or this new 2018 IS350 AWD F Sport, I'd choose the Acura. It's just a shame that the new TLX hasn't evolved as well as I wanted it to.
Having said all these things, I like the styling of the IS, the reliability, the QUIET, the soft ride, the steering wheel, the gauges, and the fact that I can fit a 10" rear wheel out back with a 275 on it.
It was the best choice for the moment.
12-05-18, 11:08 AM
#19
Lexus Champion
1. The car should have the option of memory seats, and at a bare minimum, auto-tilt side mirrors.
10. The finish on the F Sport volume and tune buttons is completely out of place. I ordered the standard version.
12. I should be able to lock the drive mode so that when I start the car next, it's in that mode. But I can't.
13. The outside of the car is obviously bigger than my old TL, but the inside is obviously smaller. Weird.
10. What are "F Sport volume and tune *****"? Do you mean the ceramic ML *****, which are a hallmark of ML systems?
12. Blame the EPA for this. Common across all makers because they have to do the fuel mileage consumption tests based on the most aggressive mode the car can start in. If Lexus allowed us to start in a Sport mode, they would have had to publish those mileage numbers, which they don't want to do.
13. The IS is smaller than the TL.
2018 Lexus IS LxWxH
184x71x56
2008 Acura TL LxWxH
190x72x57
12-05-18, 11:12 AM
#20
1. Memory seats are an available option. Part of the Comfort Package.
10. What are "F Sport volume and tune *****"? Do you mean the ceramic ML *****, which are a hallmark of ML systems?
12. Blame the EPA for this. Common across all makers because they have to do the fuel mileage consumption tests based on the most aggressive mode the car can start in. If Lexus allowed us to start in a Sport mode, they would have had to publish those mileage numbers, which they don't want to do.
13. The IS is smaller than the TL.
2018 Lexus IS LxWxH
184x71x56
2008 Acura TL LxWxH
190x72x57
10. What are "F Sport volume and tune *****"? Do you mean the ceramic ML *****, which are a hallmark of ML systems?
12. Blame the EPA for this. Common across all makers because they have to do the fuel mileage consumption tests based on the most aggressive mode the car can start in. If Lexus allowed us to start in a Sport mode, they would have had to publish those mileage numbers, which they don't want to do.
13. The IS is smaller than the TL.
2018 Lexus IS LxWxH
184x71x56
2008 Acura TL LxWxH
190x72x57
Ceramic *****, great, I hate them.
Then the EPA sucks, who knew?
I hate to say this, but something has to be wrong with those figures. I have parked my 2007 TL in my garage for 11 years, I know for certain the IS takes up more space. It's skinnier, but longer, and a LOT less interior space.
12-05-18, 11:13 AM
#21
I purchased my '18 350 AWD F Sport this past October, and there are a bunch of things on the car I consider to be weird. I'm coming from a 2007 Acura TL BTW.
My wipers and headlights seem fine, although I much prefer HID to LED.
Here's my list of what I think is weird.
1. The car should have the option of memory seats, and at a bare minimum, auto-tilt side mirrors.
2. The car should at least have the option of some small, body-color mud flaps.
3. I think the start button is in a weird place, and I find myself frequently hitting the wiper stalk reaching for it.
4. The AWD trans tunnel bump is weird for sure.
5. The wheels are extremely heavy, even for factory wheels, and the tire choice was just terrible.
6. The front brake calipers should say 'Lexus' or 'F Sport' on them, as they look extremely plain without a logo. You can even tell that the big flat spot on top was made for a logo.
7. The additional front wheel fender gap is going to be a pain in my **** because I really don't want to lower the rear.
8. The engine sound itself is a bit weird to me.
9. The whole infotainment system is complete fail IMO.
10. The finish on the F Sport volume and tune buttons is completely out of place. I ordered the standard version.
11. The push-to-open gas door is weird, as is where the cap sits.
12. I should be able to lock the drive mode so that when I start the car next, it's in that mode. But I can't.
13. The outside of the car is obviously bigger than my old TL, but the inside is obviously smaller. Weird.
14. The Mark Levnison stereo is literally made for CD's (MP3/4 doesn't have the dynamic range to take full advantage of it).
15. The fact that Toyota knows the car eats tires and hasn't come up with a good solution while preserving the handling is a bit weird.
If I had a choice between a new, 2008 Acura TL Type S or this new 2018 IS350 AWD F Sport, I'd choose the Acura. It's just a shame that the new TLX hasn't evolved as well as I wanted it to.
Having said all these things, I like the styling of the IS, the reliability, the QUIET, the soft ride, the steering wheel, the gauges, and the fact that I can fit a 10" rear wheel out back with a 275 on it.
It was the best choice for the moment.
My wipers and headlights seem fine, although I much prefer HID to LED.
Here's my list of what I think is weird.
1. The car should have the option of memory seats, and at a bare minimum, auto-tilt side mirrors.
2. The car should at least have the option of some small, body-color mud flaps.
3. I think the start button is in a weird place, and I find myself frequently hitting the wiper stalk reaching for it.
4. The AWD trans tunnel bump is weird for sure.
5. The wheels are extremely heavy, even for factory wheels, and the tire choice was just terrible.
6. The front brake calipers should say 'Lexus' or 'F Sport' on them, as they look extremely plain without a logo. You can even tell that the big flat spot on top was made for a logo.
7. The additional front wheel fender gap is going to be a pain in my **** because I really don't want to lower the rear.
8. The engine sound itself is a bit weird to me.
9. The whole infotainment system is complete fail IMO.
10. The finish on the F Sport volume and tune buttons is completely out of place. I ordered the standard version.
11. The push-to-open gas door is weird, as is where the cap sits.
12. I should be able to lock the drive mode so that when I start the car next, it's in that mode. But I can't.
13. The outside of the car is obviously bigger than my old TL, but the inside is obviously smaller. Weird.
14. The Mark Levnison stereo is literally made for CD's (MP3/4 doesn't have the dynamic range to take full advantage of it).
15. The fact that Toyota knows the car eats tires and hasn't come up with a good solution while preserving the handling is a bit weird.
If I had a choice between a new, 2008 Acura TL Type S or this new 2018 IS350 AWD F Sport, I'd choose the Acura. It's just a shame that the new TLX hasn't evolved as well as I wanted it to.
Having said all these things, I like the styling of the IS, the reliability, the QUIET, the soft ride, the steering wheel, the gauges, and the fact that I can fit a 10" rear wheel out back with a 275 on it.
It was the best choice for the moment.
12-05-18, 11:20 AM
#22
did you drive the TLX sh-AWD also? I’ve owned a third gen TL-S before and overall, the interior quality of the Lexus IS superior in my experience. Acura leather is way to thin - I’d be surprised if it isn’t split leather. The lower dash panels and lower door panels were nicer in the Acura though.
12-05-18, 11:25 AM
#23
Lexus Champion
Yes they are. Added as an option in 17 or 18 as I recall.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6418/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...8577/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6418/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...8577/overview/
Last edited by JDR76; 12-05-18 at 11:30 AM.
12-05-18, 11:25 AM
#24
The cool thing is that I gave my TL to my daughter. Next warm day she's over I'm going to park them both inside and see what the frik is going on!
12-05-18, 11:27 AM
#25
Yes they are. Added as an option in 17 as I recall.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6418/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...8577/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6418/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...8577/overview/
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12-05-18, 11:32 AM
#26
Lexus Champion
Just double checked the numbers, and you are correct. But I'm telling you, the TL took up less space in the garage, not even a question. And I mean, it's not even close.
The cool thing is that I gave my TL to my daughter. Next warm day she's over I'm going to park them both inside and see what the frik is going on!
The cool thing is that I gave my TL to my daughter. Next warm day she's over I'm going to park them both inside and see what the frik is going on!
12-05-18, 11:47 AM
#28
12-05-18, 12:43 PM
#29
Lexus Champion
This is getting interesting. I've been digging further. I can find several listings out there of 2018 F Sports with the memory seats, like the ones I posted. Lexus revised the packages for 2018 and came up with the Comfort Package, which includes both the memory seats and the dipping mirrors. The 2018 sheet does not exclude this package from the F Sport, and again, I find listings with it. But for 2019, I don't see the Comfort Package listed. Hmmm...
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12-05-18, 12:48 PM
#30
This is getting interesting. I've been digging further. I can find several listings out there of 2018 F Sports with the memory seats, like the ones I posted. Lexus revised the packages for 2018 and came up with the Comfort Package, which includes both the memory seats and the dipping mirrors. The 2018 sheet does not exclude this package from the F Sport, and again, I find listings with it. But for 2019, I don't see the Comfort Package listed. Hmmm...