Highly disappointed - Determined to tune my IS200t
10-02-17, 12:39 PM
#16
Lexus Champion
You should have gotten an IS350. 
10-02-17, 05:13 PM
#17
Lexus Champion
Well, you also have a Hellcat, which basically has more power than 99.5% of other cars you'll encounter on a day-to-day basis... 
I'd have to agree with jameshan on the IS 350 - this would be a good note for your next car-buying process, to give the car a decent amount of the throttle during the test drive! Maybe not floor it, depending on how friendly your sales rep is. Or, just floor it anyway, since you're about to spend thousands of dollars on what could be a disappointment.
I'd have to agree with jameshan on the IS 350 - this would be a good note for your next car-buying process, to give the car a decent amount of the throttle during the test drive! Maybe not floor it, depending on how friendly your sales rep is. Or, just floor it anyway, since you're about to spend thousands of dollars on what could be a disappointment.
You are on point about fully test the acceleration and braking during test drive. I usually give them a warning beforehand. If they don’t allow me, i turnaround back to the dealer and find one that will
10-02-17, 11:33 PM
#18
This has always been a peeve of mine. Yes, the IS platform should/could have more power but at what cost?
The flip side of the coin, you'll probably find folks over at the BMW side of the fence saying "maintenance is too much/expensive!" "this car is unreliable after warranty!" "why is my car depreciating so fast?"
The flip side of the coin, you'll probably find folks over at the BMW side of the fence saying "maintenance is too much/expensive!" "this car is unreliable after warranty!" "why is my car depreciating so fast?"
20 years ago Toyota made a Supra to prove they can make a reliable car and yet it's very powerful.
So stop giving Lexus their excuse for not spending money on R&D for a new engine.
10-03-17, 12:28 AM
#19
Supra was an amazing car, don't get me wrong. But it only resonated with the enthusiast. Here's a hint: Toyota didn't discontinue it because of the lack of reliability or power.
Yes the engine is dated, but it is proven. Who says they aren't spending money on a new engine? I have a couple of birdie product friends over in Plano, they are working on a new engine to meet the stricter GHG standards (hint: 350 is on the chopping block)
10-03-17, 06:31 AM
#20
One sacrifices performance for reliability and the other is the opposite to a similarly disappointing extent. Who knows, it may be the Koreans who can achieve both performance and reliability. Lots of news coming out of Korea car makers nowadays.....
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10-03-17, 08:49 AM
#21
Lexus Test Driver
Comparing my BMW to my Lexus I find both equally guilty of compromises.
One sacrifices performance for reliability and the other is the opposite to a similarly disappointing extent. Who knows, it may be the Koreans who can achieve both performance and reliability. Lots of news coming out of Korea car makers nowadays.....
One sacrifices performance for reliability and the other is the opposite to a similarly disappointing extent. Who knows, it may be the Koreans who can achieve both performance and reliability. Lots of news coming out of Korea car makers nowadays.....
10-03-17, 09:08 AM
#22
For Lexus, you have to pay $$$ to play. The GS-F should have been a $5k option from a GS350 but instead adds a ridiculous premium for the V8. It is reliable and a pretty good performer but not for the price. On the German side, Porsche is the highly reliable, high performing mfg. Super expensive though. I hear Audi has pretty decent reliability these days. Can anyone comment on the reliability of an S4?
10-03-17, 09:33 AM
#23
Lexus Test Driver
10-03-17, 03:31 PM
#24
Comparing my BMW to my Lexus I find both equally guilty of compromises.
One sacrifices performance for reliability and the other is the opposite to a similarly disappointing extent. Who knows, it may be the Koreans who can achieve both performance and reliability. Lots of news coming out of Korea car makers nowadays.....
One sacrifices performance for reliability and the other is the opposite to a similarly disappointing extent. Who knows, it may be the Koreans who can achieve both performance and reliability. Lots of news coming out of Korea car makers nowadays.....
10-03-17, 09:48 PM
#25
I would've bought and Audi over my 2017 200t if Audi's servicing wasn't so expensive. I think Audi is definitely getting better in terms of reliability but Lexus had the better track record.
10-04-17, 02:07 AM
#26
10-06-17, 04:37 PM
#27
i too have an IS350 like many others here. Is there a lack of power? No not really, but I do wish there was more. For your day to day, no. It’s fine. But with more spirited driving, it could use a little more up top. But I’m almost never satisfied with the amount of power I have.
10-06-17, 07:17 PM
#28
I don't see data available for S4 but I am looking at the latest data from Consumer Reports as to cost of ownership and for Audi as a brand is still very high (right after BMW and Mercedes), more than 60% higher than Lexus. Actually I have been paying a lot more attention to cost of ownership than reliability, these days cars can get poor reliability ratings because for example of high number of infotainment complaints that don't have direct relation to cost of ownership.
11-23-18, 02:26 PM
#29
Driver School Candidate
Did anyone who has a box measured the time of acceleration before and after with any kind of device? Racelogic? An application reading from OBD? Stopwatch at higher speeds?
I look for the information as I had Racechip GTS in my IS an the time from 60-120 was 3 secs worse after the box. The dyno says the torque is increased, but it looks that there is something else which is not cooperating after the box.
I have European IS 300 which is equivalent IS 300 RWD in North America, perviously called 200T.
I look for the information as I had Racechip GTS in my IS an the time from 60-120 was 3 secs worse after the box. The dyno says the torque is increased, but it looks that there is something else which is not cooperating after the box.
I have European IS 300 which is equivalent IS 300 RWD in North America, perviously called 200T.
11-24-18, 06:11 AM
#30
I know of a 220i upgraded with a simple well known piggyback only and a stock 235i could no longer run away from it. It was neck and neck way past legal speeds. The 320i is the BMW equivalent to the IS300. I am not sure if current tune would bring it much past the 320i. And the ZF 8 speed is terrific in helping with the pull.