Glashub

Car before the IS350 F-Sport was a Genesis V-8, 0-60 mph in 4.8 seconds (on par with a BMW 550i), and finished the quarter mile in 13.3 seconds at 107.1 mph.

What a waste. The IS is MORE than adequate. I screamed past most cars in my Genesis right about to about 40mph which is when I hit traffic or a red light sitting right nest to or in front of the Porches, Audi's, and BMW's. F-sports are drive by Grannies in NA? Where the hell is NA? In LA I never see a grannie in an F-sport. No city is a better litmus test. So, Mr. 150 posts I suspect you're just trying to stir the pot. No way the 3G is noticeable slower than 2G. I had a 2G as a loaner -- couldn't wait to get out of that Granny car.

kolyan

Mr. 800 posts

I guess our driving is different, I am never in traffic and there arent much traffic lights on my routes.....

3IS is rated slower by Lexus and most people in here tend to agree with that too. Its gear ratios are different and its a bit heavier then previous gen which make it slower to 60 mph

Its a fact that 2gen Lexus was heavily pushing base 250 AWDs in all northern states, its almost impossible to find 350 here. With 3gen Lexus is pushing 350s and 350 Fsport to everyone, thats all I see on the roads now, especially the Fsports.

I wanted ISF but due lack of availability considered 2IS F-sport and 3IS F-sport. 2IS deal didn't really work out (too expensive due to exclusivity, 1 car this color was available in entire USA at that time), 3IS was dirt cheap at local dealer ($30k for CPO with 20k miles) but after test drive I decided to let it go....2 main reasons were, slower and soon to be everywhere on the road like 250s now.

EZZ

The 350 sells about 10% of total volume per my dealer. In so-cal where the a huge portion of luxury cars sell, the IS350 is very very rare. I see 20-30 IS250s everyday, but a 350 won't be seen for a week

The new gen is a couple ticks slower to 60 but starts making ground after that. It's highway pull is better with the 8 gears and significantly better in the corners, especially the feel. We don't all live our lives by the quarter mile, but I appreciate that overall, the driving experience is faaar superior in the 3IS.

I also agree that the 328 is a better competitor to the 350 but the 328, comparably equipped is MORE expensive than the 350. The 340 is far more expensive and can't be compared as its in a different price category.

kolyan

3IS chassis is better. I do like the car. I wish is was more exclusive like before. I am from Mass. There are currently 39 2006-2013 IS350s in 500 mile radius and 130 used 3IS 350s already, 2014-2016. 170 new 350s and only 20 IS250s (checked cars.com)

I also never see 2IS Fsport in person....ever not 250 not 350

Sango

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Over in Vancouver, Canada, there are plenty of 350 driving around (majority being 250), where luxury cars is more like the norm.

Robsc89

Just wanna throw it in and thank the person who posted the thread about the signal light blinker change, I did it myself and got it to 5 blinks and now it's more relevant to other drivers haha I love club lexus!

sdiver68

I have no idea why the $40-$45k IS350 F-Sport would be cross shopped with $55k+ M2. A small cheap build coupe vs an ultra reliable and practical sport sedan. Ill see your M2 and raise you a Roush Mustang in the Coupe class if all you care about is performance. Or even a Dinan m235i. Or FI BRZ. Or Corvette. Or Cayman S. The list goes on.

EZZ

M2 is the same price as a vette. That vette has unbelievable performance for the money. That is the car I would get for a performance car.

Mrg02d

I don't know if it was mentions yet, but I read that while the new gen is slower to 60, it's geared for more pull at higher speeds. I drive most of my drive on the interstate to work. Being able to quickly get around semi trucks is where I have most of my need for power. I don't need to beat a Porsche or bmw off the line to get my groceries. I'd like to be able to, but 70mph is where I spend my time. Never drove the old gen ones, but mine will hit 100mph really fast if I floor it.

Edit: saw the mention of high speed performance over low speed.

Did you drive on the interstate during your test drive?

kolyan

Did not, no.....I am sure it does, I still wish they used a different engine or increased its power a bit. Would be nice to see 3rd gen ISF....V8 or twin turbo V6 at least.

Glashub

Not gonna happen imo until a new power plant has been completely stress tested and QA passed for reliability. Lexus = Reliability. That's their brand equity - that's where they make their money -- that's why they're the only Japanese brand mentioned with the Germans -- who have a multi decade head start in the premium branding business. The only Japanese luxury brand in the Forbes top 100 is Lexus -- all built on rock solid build -- and the current 6 is rock solid.

http://www.forbes.com/powerful-brands/list/2/#tab:rank.

kolyan

Shouldn't be hard to stick same or slightly tuned V8 in wider and lighter 3IS. They already have good chassis and tranny, just needs tuning to match M3/4

Mrg02d

Wouldn't be hard at all to do so, but also keep this thing priced where it's at?

Glashub

^^^^
Good point. There's that too -- Lexus has a premium brand that costs less to own. That's got to be hard to accomplish year after year.

Olasek

I tested both F-Sport and non-sport IS-350 and I don't see any difference in steering stiffness, actually I don't see any difference in steering stiffness between Sport or Eco mode. I do own IS-350 (non-sport) and steering stiffness is very nice, increases with speed, is just right. There is actually one Youtube reviewer of IS-250 (non-sport) who comments that steering is a bit hard. If there is any difference in steering between Sport and Eco mode - it is beyond my senses to tell the difference. I am a real stickler for proper steering feel - this is what originally made me abandon my quest to purchase an ES350 - unacceptable steering feel.