Notices
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013) Discussion about the 2006+ model IS models

Engine cranking/startup noise (merged threads)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 06:27 PM
  #661  
Kurtz's Avatar
Kurtz
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,810
Likes: 14
From: NC
Default

Assuming it's a 350 he probably means the valve spring recall...I'd guess there's enough overlap on the labor they figure they can do both at the same time (and probably still bill Lexus for both )
Reply
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 08:14 PM
  #662  
SPNinjA's Avatar
SPNinjA
Lead Lap
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: DE
Default

Originally Posted by Kurtz
Assuming it's a 350 he probably means the valve spring recall...I'd guess there's enough overlap on the labor they figure they can do both at the same time (and probably still bill Lexus for both )
So what happens if it's a 250...
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 04:04 AM
  #663  
Kurtz's Avatar
Kurtz
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,810
Likes: 14
From: NC
Default

Originally Posted by SPNinjA
So what happens if it's a 250...
No idea since there aren't any forthcoming "new" 250 recalls to my knowledge
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 06:05 AM
  #664  
hanzie411's Avatar
hanzie411
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
From: TX
Default

uh, i would take it back and make them do the work now and later if needed.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 08:34 AM
  #665  
dojoman's Avatar
dojoman
Lead Lap
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,907
Likes: 272
From: California
Default

I'm getting mine done for both at the same time. Cam shaft for cold start noise and spring valve. Old boy...it's going to be a big one. A couple of days with loaner. Most dealers don't have the parts for spring valve recall.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 11:25 AM
  #666  
SPNinjA's Avatar
SPNinjA
Lead Lap
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: DE
Default

I remember him telling me that there is going to be a recall for is250 involving something with the cam gears and/or spring valve but, he made it sound like it was a maybe kind of deal. I have the rattle noise documented and on the papers they put "OK to drive". So if anything does happen to my car that's related to the cold start rattle, I can always point to the papers.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 04:06 PM
  #667  
Bobby206's Avatar
Bobby206
Pole Position
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 277
Likes: 1
From: South Seattle
Default

I just called my dealer and service told me that they can take a look at the car but it'll cost $57 per half hour. WTF? Isnt the engine crank/rattle part of the power train warranty as stated in the lexus tsib?
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 04:51 PM
  #668  
SPNinjA's Avatar
SPNinjA
Lead Lap
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: DE
Default

Originally Posted by Bobby206
I just called my dealer and service told me that they can take a look at the car but it'll cost $57 per half hour. WTF? Isnt the engine crank/rattle part of the power train warranty as stated in the lexus tsib?
Yeah, I believe anything under the TSIB is performed free of charge as long as you're still under warranty.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2010 | 05:14 PM
  #669  
E6BAV8R's Avatar
E6BAV8R
Pole Position
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
From: TX
Default

Originally Posted by SPNinjA
I remember him telling me that there is going to be a recall for is250 involving something with the cam gears and/or spring valve but, he made it sound like it was a maybe kind of deal. I have the rattle noise documented and on the papers they put "OK to drive". So if anything does happen to my car that's related to the cold start rattle, I can always point to the papers.
Hopefully it does turn into a recall. It very well deserves it; as well as the carbon build-up issues.
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:26 PM
  #670  
SPNinjA's Avatar
SPNinjA
Lead Lap
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: DE
Default

Well guys, I got a call from the dealer saying the parts are in. I'll be getting the redesign cam gears done. The SA told me it would take a total of 2 days so, I'll give an opinion on how everything feels after it's done.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:52 AM
  #671  
SPNinjA's Avatar
SPNinjA
Lead Lap
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: DE
Default

I brought my car in this morning and my SA has confusion written all over his face. I tell him about the call I got to bring my car in and he tells me that I shouldn't have gotten that call. He then tells me they were still waiting on an actual service campaign to come out for my car before they replace anything but, they gave me a loaner and kept my car anyways?! I'm really confused about the situation?! If they are waiting on a service campaign; why would they keep my car?
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:36 AM
  #672  
E6BAV8R's Avatar
E6BAV8R
Pole Position
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
From: TX
Default

Originally Posted by SPNinjA
I brought my car in this morning and my SA has confusion written all over his face. I tell him about the call I got to bring my car in and he tells me that I shouldn't have gotten that call. He then tells me they were still waiting on an actual service campaign to come out for my car before they replace anything but, they gave me a loaner and kept my car anyways?! I'm really confused about the situation?! If they are waiting on a service campaign; why would they keep my car?
That's odd. I'd call another Lexus dealer, or take the car to another dealer as well.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 11:52 AM
  #673  
clubfoot's Avatar
clubfoot
Advanced
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 651
Likes: 3
From: Ontario
Default

I want to gather some information concerning the "HOT" timinig chain rattle condition,...NOT the cold:

What year is your car and did you have the floor mat recall done with the brake interlock ecu flash?
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:08 PM
  #674  
E6BAV8R's Avatar
E6BAV8R
Pole Position
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
From: TX
Default

Well, I heard the dreaded rattle during start-up when I started my car after work when it had been sitting in the parking lot all day. Even though I heard the rattle, it was more quiet and not as long in duration as some of the other sound rattle clips people have posted up here.

I have an '06 IS250 with 68K miles, so I am still barely under warranty.

So, my question:

Does the Lexus dealer need to hear the rattle in-person while they start the car to do the TSIB; or will they do the TSB on the car if I record the start-up and rattle with my cell phone and play it for them off my phone - will they take that as good as "hearing it in person"?

Also, did you guys just call the Lexus dealer and tell them you are having an issue that is covered under a TSB and would like to bring the car in for inspection of the problem? I assume they give you a loaner if I need to leave the car there, for say a week, so they can hear the rattle?

Thanks for the help.
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:26 PM
  #675  
SPNinjA's Avatar
SPNinjA
Lead Lap
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 593
Likes: 0
From: DE
Default

Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
Well, I heard the dreaded rattle during start-up when I started my car after work when it had been sitting in the parking lot all day. Even though I heard the rattle, it was more quiet and not as long in duration as some of the other sound rattle clips people have posted up here.

I have an '06 IS250 with 68K miles, so I am still barely under warranty.

So, my question:

Does the Lexus dealer need to hear the rattle in-person while they start the car to do the TSIB; or will they do the TSB on the car if I record the start-up and rattle with my cell phone and play it for them off my phone - will they take that as good as "hearing it in person"?

Also, did you guys just call the Lexus dealer and tell them you are having an issue that is covered under a TSB and would like to bring the car in for inspection of the problem? I assume they give you a loaner if I need to leave the car there, for say a week, so they can hear the rattle?

Thanks for the help.
I just got mine done today! It definitely starts up alot quieter and the rattle noise is gone. For some reason I feel my car drives better but, that may just be in my head. I believe someone in this thread recorded the sound and sent the sound file to one of his advisors who heard it and determined he had the rattle problem. They may still ask you to drop off your car for a couple of days so they can hear it in person. They couldn't hear it on the first day when I dropped mine off but, did on the second day it was there. Call up your dealer and tell them you hear a strange noise on cold start ups. It should sound something like fine metal hitting on metal (atleast for me it did). They will give you a loaner if you need one. They always give me the same model car but newer year w/ fully loaded everything. Makes me feel sad that I don't have some of the option but, I guess that's their intentions... Took about a day and a half to get everyone replaced. I have a picture down below of what was done. Good luck and let us know if you're successful.
Attached Thumbnails Engine cranking/startup noise (merged threads)-2010-07-22_21.17.05.jpg  
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:44 PM.