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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Hey everyone.

My neighbors drive a GS300 and when he turns on the HID headlights, they practically light up the entire block; and it's low beams.

Now I've seen the IS HIDs driving down the road. The IS isn't as "blinding" as the GS. So I was wondering.....

Does any IS owners know if the HIDs on the IS shoot just as far as the GS's HIDs?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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GS300? Gen 2 GS? Those use D2R (R for Reflector) for their headlamps

vs.

Gen 2 IS250/350 HID: These use D4S (S for Projector for their headlamps.

D2 OEM Bulbs are typically 4200K for the Philips 85122(6) or 5000K for the Philips 85122(6)+.

D4 OEM Bulbs are 4800K for Philips

Reflector type HID enclosures have a central hotspot, which means the light just shoots forward and concentrated.

Projector type HID enclosures have a wide disperse beam that evenly distributes the light throughout the beam.

Answer:

Reflector type enclosures may seem brighter but the spread is minimal.

Projector type enclosures may seem dim but the overal dispersement of light is acheived.

When you compare the overall width of the beam between reflector and projector, projectors are by far more superior.

You will notice that most car manufactures, such as lexus & infiniti, are both switching to projectors for this performance.

Also, Projectors have AFS which is also a PLUS.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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OMG... are you trying to make a buying decision base on the brightness of the headlight? J/K

It won't be a bother to me if a good car does not come with HID. One of the solution is go get an after market kit (cheap, from fleetbay) and use the brightest bulb...

Or, get a photometer from RitzCamera and measure it right infront of the sales at Lex Dealer... then return the photometer back to Ritz.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 03:37 AM
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istundra,

Good summary and comparison. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ic144
Hey everyone.

My neighbors drive a GS300 and when he turns on the HID headlights, they practically light up the entire block; and it's low beams.

Now I've seen the IS HIDs driving down the road. The IS isn't as "blinding" as the GS. So I was wondering.....

Does any IS owners know if the HIDs on the IS shoot just as far as the GS's HIDs?
IS this enough light for you? 4300k temp
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that pix is sexy
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by josephdoc
OMG... are you trying to make a buying decision base on the brightness of the headlight? J/K

It won't be a bother to me if a good car does not come with HID. One of the solution is go get an after market kit (cheap, from fleetbay) and use the brightest bulb...

Or, get a photometer from RitzCamera and measure it right infront of the sales at Lex Dealer... then return the photometer back to Ritz.
I prefer OEM integration of HIDs because of features such as autoleveling that help prevent people from thinking you're high-beaming them.

I won't buy another car w/o HIDs because while, if you live in town and don't do a lot of rural driving, you don't need the lights, but if you're driving down a forrest littered highway, being able to see deer way before you could with halogens has literraly saved me from a totaled car and me possibly being dead at least twice that I can think of.
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Originally Posted by The Chad
I prefer OEM integration of HIDs because of features such as autoleveling that help prevent people from thinking you're high-beaming them.

I won't buy another car w/o HIDs because while, if you live in town and don't do a lot of rural driving, you don't need the lights, but if you're driving down a forrest littered highway, being able to see deer way before you could with halogens has literraly saved me from a totaled car and me possibly being dead at least twice that I can think of.
That's if you're lucky enough to have the option to purchase your car w/ HIDs. My 250 didn't have an option for HIDs... thus I am looking into xenon depot 6000k.

I'm still pissed about not being able to get HIDs on my new car here in so cal.
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Originally Posted by MoFlava
That's if you're lucky enough to have the option to purchase your car w/ HIDs. My 250 didn't have an option for HIDs... thus I am looking into xenon depot 6000k.

I'm still pissed about not being able to get HIDs on my new car here in so cal.
why wasn't it an option?
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Originally Posted by C280to250
IS this enough light for you? 4300k temp
I guess I need to angle my HIDs up a bit then, because they don't look like that
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by istundra
GS300? Gen 2 GS? Those use D2R (R for Reflector) for their headlamps

vs.

Gen 2 IS250/350 HID: These use D4S (S for Projector for their headlamps.

D2 OEM Bulbs are typically 4200K for the Philips 85122(6) or 5000K for the Philips 85122(6)+.

D4 OEM Bulbs are 4800K for Philips

Reflector type HID enclosures have a central hotspot, which means the light just shoots forward and concentrated.

Projector type HID enclosures have a wide disperse beam that evenly distributes the light throughout the beam.

Answer:

Reflector type enclosures may seem brighter but the spread is minimal.

Projector type enclosures may seem dim but the overal dispersement of light is acheived.

When you compare the overall width of the beam between reflector and projector, projectors are by far more superior.

You will notice that most car manufactures, such as lexus & infiniti, are both switching to projectors for this performance.

Also, Projectors have AFS which is also a PLUS.

Sorry. I was referring to the 3 Gen GS350 and GS430; 2006 models and after.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ULTiMaX99
why wasn't it an option?
It was only available in a package for '06 models. It's a stand-alone option for '07.
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Originally Posted by ic144
Sorry. I was referring to the 3 Gen GS350 and GS430; 2006 models and after.
Both the GS Gen 3 and IS Gen 2 share the same Ballast & Bulb. Denso/Koito D4R/D4S Ballast & Philips D4S Philips Bulb. Specs are exactly the same.

The only differance between the two cars are the projectors. Some projectors have better bulb arrangement for the focus points, clear vs. frensel lens, and the reflectiveness of the bowl of the projector.

Of the two, which is brighter?

That I do not know.
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Originally Posted by IRCRomeo
It was only available in a package for '06 models. It's a stand-alone option for '07.
i know that. the op's post made it sound like hid's were not available for the 06 is250.
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