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Ehsun 01-07-17 08:18 PM

the lexus ls460,460l,600hL are all usually limited to 130

superdenso 01-08-17 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by EthanS (Post 9728132)
Elaborate please?

EDIT: I wanted to brag and say that a rental 2017 Camaro SS in the Las Vegas desert (utility access road) will hit 155mph with a full 3 gears left to go through... I lifted my foot out of fear at that point.

Lane changes at speeds above 70 exhibit a lot of body roll. Now some may like the seat of your pants feel of a car bobbing at speeds, but it's disconcerting to some. On the other hand, if the car only goes from A-B and gets the kids from the day care then high speed discussions are moot. Just take a look at what MT has to say below.

2013
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus...0-first-drive/
"The ride is La-Z-Boy comfortable, soaking up bumps like a pancake sops up syrup. Unfortunately, that also means a good amount of body roll along with pitch and dive from acceleration and braking."

2007
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2006/11/lexus-ls-460/
The LS 460’s handling reminded me of a 10-month old Golden Retriever puppy: affectionate but clumsy. Turn-in is irrelevant. You can’t feel the car settling into a corner and you only realize that you are exceeding the vehicle’s limits when the door’s angle of attack relative to the road exceeds 15 degrees, and the traction control wrests control (you mean I was driving?) away from the driver.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-revi...d-review-notes
Look at the facts: The LS460 is a full-size, V8-powered, luxurious sedan with attractive but conservative styling. It's expensive but undercuts top-tier German flagships, and its ride and handling appear far better tailored to domestic turnpikes than unrestricted Autobahns.

Junglequac 01-08-17 12:26 PM

Comparing a Camaro SS to an LS460 is the definition of an apples to oranges comparison. Heck, you can pickup a Fox body Mustang and add nitrous for less than my TV is worth (last of the Panasonic Plasmas 65ZT60) and leave a 460 in its wake.

I have great respect to the SS and the Mustang GT for that matter, but gosh is the rear visibility in the Camaro a cruel joke. Add in the high beltline where the side windows seem tiny and it makes for an exciting drive.

tallcaguy 01-08-17 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by FatherTo1 (Post 9727946)
I don't speed anymore, out of respect for a kind-hearted police officer that caught me at 110mph in my Integra while in college. It was a quiet Saturday afternoon and Highway 113 was empty between Woodland and Davis, CA. After I crested the hill I spotted the officer in the center grassy knoll area. I knew I was toast. His lights turned on and I pulled over before he even finished his u-turn. I had read police can be nervous about tinted windows so I made sure to have the engine off, all windows down, and both hands on the steering wheel in plain sight. I knew I was busted and could only think of what my parents would say and of their disappointment.

The officer did a field sobriety test and made me read from the vehicle codebook. He had me recite the passage that stated "...any car traveling over 100 mph in their jurisdiction is subject to immediate impound and the driver placed in jail". I had never been in jail before, but I didn't make any excuses and no tears. I figured it was time to face the music and it will be a lesson I will never forget. To my amazement, he let me go and said be more careful. I think he saw my backpack on the passenger seat and realized I was just a college kid making a dumb decision.

Ever since then, I do not speed. I may accelerate briskly but I stay at the speed limit. If I manage to creep over the limit, it isn't more than 5 mph because I will never forget the compassion that police officer showed me. My wife says I drive like a Grandma. So be it.

P.S. Actually, the decision of that police officer has saved me from later potential tickets because there have been more than a few times where I didn't realize a police car was behind me and it was a good thing I was traveling at the speed limit despite enough open road to go faster. Police cars take on so many different shapes and sizes now (cruiser, SUV, Camaro, etc.) and it's hard for me to spot them. Plus, I'm usually carrying precious cargo now and don't want to be the cause of my wife and daughter getting hurt.

Had to smile at this story because of the location. My limit on 113 is 85. Glad it worked out well for you.

FatherTo1 01-08-17 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by tallcaguy (Post 9730252)
Had to smile at this story because of the location. My limit on 113 is 85. Glad it worked out well for you.

Thanks, tallca. I have fond memories in that Integra.

Because of my speed you'll often spot me in the slow lane. I do move over for merging onramp traffic. Rarely am I in the left lane unless it's HOV. Those HOV drivers are pretty fast though.

dnthrtme1 01-08-17 10:00 PM

Not sure if all ls460's are limited to 130 or 135 because I know mine has been much past that

superdenso 01-08-17 10:25 PM

The following video features a Toyota Motorsports LS. The gentleman describes "refining" the handling at 0:30.

The modified LS is described below:
In September 2011, photos were taken of a heavily modified LS, later revealed to be the LS TMG (Toyota Motorsport GmbH) prototype spotted on the Nürburgring. Aside from a redesigned aero package, the LS TMG contains a 5.0-liter V8 engine that produces 641 hp and 524 pound-feet of torque, giving the car a top speed around 200 mph and 4.2-second 0–60 time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS_(XF40)

Junglequac 01-09-17 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by dnthrtme1 (Post 9730550)
Not sure if all ls460's are limited to 130 or 135 because I know mine has been much past that

While there is a company that makes a product that flashes the ECU allowing a higher top speed, unmodified North American LS's do have a 130 MPH limiter. Awesome that it seems yours does not!

Nospinzone 01-09-17 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by superdenso (Post 9729803)
Lane changes at speeds above 70 exhibit a lot of body roll. Now some may like the seat of your pants feel of a car bobbing at speeds, but it's disconcerting to some. On the other hand, if the car only goes from A-B and gets the kids from the day care then high speed discussions are moot. Just take a look at what MT has to say below.

2013
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus...0-first-drive/
"The ride is La-Z-Boy comfortable, soaking up bumps like a pancake sops up syrup. Unfortunately, that also means a good amount of body roll along with pitch and dive from acceleration and braking."

2007
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2006/11/lexus-ls-460/
The LS 460’s handling reminded me of a 10-month old Golden Retriever puppy: affectionate but clumsy. Turn-in is irrelevant. You can’t feel the car settling into a corner and you only realize that you are exceeding the vehicle’s limits when the door’s angle of attack relative to the road exceeds 15 degrees, and the traction control wrests control (you mean I was driving?) away from the driver.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-revi...d-review-notes
Look at the facts: The LS460 is a full-size, V8-powered, luxurious sedan with attractive but conservative styling. It's expensive but undercuts top-tier German flagships, and its ride and handling appear far better tailored to domestic turnpikes than unrestricted Autobahns.

That about sums up what I would say. Just because a vehicle can go a certain speed, doesn't mean it should go at that speed. I cringe when I see these people in their caravans bombing down the highway at 85, 90 or even higher. If they had to make any kind of maneuver or lane change or brake quickly, they are in deep trouble.

I don't have air suspension or the Brembo brakes and maybe that would help, but I wouldn't feel comfortable in my car above 130, at least for any prolonged period.

DavidinCT 08-21-17 01:03 PM

Wasn't the LS430 capped around 150 or so ?

Still anything over 100 is moving pretty fast... I've hit 115 a few times but, as soon as I noticed, I slowed right down :egads:

SW17LS 08-21-17 02:11 PM

LS430 was capped at 130.

Lexuslsguy 08-21-17 03:00 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...a33fbcff1e.jpg
The US Audi S8 Plus is limited at 190 mph so it must not be by law. I know my A8 is 130 as well as my old 430. I do remember my 99 LS400 going up to about 150. Miss that car. You do need to have the proper high speed tires for this type of driving and they are expensive. I think it is Y rated.

DavidinCT 08-21-17 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Lexuslsguy (Post 9960672)
I do remember my 99 LS400 going up to about 150. Miss that car. You do need to have the proper high speed tires for this type of driving and they are expensive. I think it is Y rated.


Originally Posted by SW15LS (Post 9960613)
LS430 was capped at 130.

Ah, I was thinking about the LS400, I remember having my LS400 up to 138... not wise to do but, it did it before I backed off... Never went more than 115 in my 430 or 460... but, that was 14-15+ years ago now...

SW17LS 08-21-17 06:34 PM

400 was 149

Junglequac 08-22-17 01:44 AM

What I want to know is why so many Mercedes (non AMG), BMW 3 Series, Audi A3's and A4's and I am sure others are likewise limited to 130. I know with MB and others you can pay extra (the German way!) to raise the top speed, but a large number of luxury cars are indeed limited to 130.

Most of this is theoretical as unless you live in Montana (was lucky enough to drive across the state back when the speed limit as "Reasonable and Prudent during the day and 65 at night), but this was right after graduating college and was in my friends Jetta Trek Edition. No doubt the bike rack did us no favors...


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