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Premium gas for 2016 RX 450h?

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Old 09-09-23, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by toyotaman7
keep in mind that 450h calls for premium fuel and 350 needs regular gas.

I’m averaging 11-12 L/100km on 2016 RX350 which is the same until 2022
Thanks for the reply. After extensively looking through about 100 pages on the forum, the majority seem to say that premium truly is not required and doesn't affect mileage, performance or warranty in the hybrid, so for my comparison I am assuming regular fuel being used for both.
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Originally Posted by DavidGilly
I am in the market for a 2020-2022 RX. Trying to decide between 350 and 450H. In the Hybrid section of the forum, people say they commonly get 25mpg which equates to 9.8 L / 100KM (Canada). I assume that figure is average, not conservatie driving style which is more than likely what applies to me. I see people on this thread saying they get around the same? Is there a difference between the Hybrid in fuel economy or not? Also worth mentioning, I am in Ontario Canada and it get pretty cold here for at least 25% of the year.
My wife has a 2020 RX 350 and I have a 2021 RX 450h. Our ratio of highway to city miles is roughly the same for both. Accounting for differences in driving styles (my wife has a heavier foot and I am an unapologetic hypermiler). I would estimate that my 450h gets about 10 MPG more than her 350. The big difference is city driving where I estimate the MPG difference is roughly 13-14 MPG. On the highway, I get outstanding MPG mainly because I drive at the speed limit (typically 55-60 MPH on the highways we drive).

Cold weather is an issue. Note the 450h traction battery is underneath the rear seats, so when the cabin temp warms up to a comfortable level, the traction battery will be quite efficient. But the ICE is also affected by cold weather. One way to combat the effects of cold temps is to avoid short trips whenever possible. I am retired, so I do not have a daily commute. During the winter, I try to combine as many errands as possible into one trip. I will say I have found that once the air temp gets to 50 or higher, my 450h is a real champ at fuel economy. If the air temp is in the 20-50 degree range, not so much.

You can check out my mileage here by clicking the Fuelly link below.
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Old 09-21-23, 03:55 AM
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At this stage in life it is just much easier for us to follow the manuals suggestions. We all obviously paid a fair amount of money for a luxury vehicle. I’m not going to skimp on gas to save a few penny’s here and there. What I find funny though is that my high performance 5.0L engine in my Mustang is recommended for 87 octane by the manufacturer. Well, I choose to run 93 in it also. But, I’m old school and believe it will thank me every time I choose to kick it in the rear! I just think a high performance engine should be treated like one. To put 87 in a vehicle with over 450 bhp is just a non starter for me.
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2020 Rx450h Fuel type

Unleaded gasoline only

Octane Rating

91 (Research Octane Number 96) or higher


But also read this from the hybrid owner's manual. This is the controversy and point of this thread. Is it necessary to buy expensive premium fuel just because the Lexus Owner's Manual mandates it for the hybrid. I am still not sure how to answer this when Lexus would tell you that it is required.
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I always fill with Premium. I like the results
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I have a 2017 450H which is much better mileage than my 2010 450H.

Has anyone calculated the rough mileage improvements between regular and premium? I've been trying to test this based on my own driving... filling up with premium last time seemed to improve L consumption per 100km significantly over filling in up with regular the time prior.
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Originally Posted by Kulharin
I have a 2017 450H which is much better mileage than my 2010 450H.

Has anyone calculated the rough mileage improvements between regular and premium? I've been trying to test this based on my own driving... filling up with premium last time seemed to improve L consumption per 100km significantly over filling in up with regular the time prior.
As you know, the RX450h has a higher compression ratio than the RX350, here in the US the owners manual requires premium.

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